how did ugude's camps do?

Hi guys my group hunted uguide pheasant camp the 4th week of seasons. Basicly it was the same guys as last year same dogs. The habitat was the best we ever seen in the last 6 or 7 years we have seen. We shot 37 birds in 3 days less than half what we did last year. We are not going back to his camp next year not because the hunting was down a little over 50% but some imo a very bad management decision on his part. Anyway I have reservations at a place farmed for pheasants and a lodge a whole better for $500 less per hunter
 
yes, very damned insulting...exactly. if you read his summer pheasant forecast, on his actual website, it is a bunch of garbage. I feel like a lot of the guys who bashed me for being too hard on him didn't read much of what he had to say throughout the summer or early fall..it was utter bs....sorry, truth...then he started twisting, and changed his tune...my take, anyway...frankly, i have been an advocate of his for years...still am, but he needs to be candid...my .02. Whatever...

Just checked the reports on his website through last week. Looks like his camps are having a tough year. He's got a "Midseason Report" in which he acknowledges a couple different times that drought DOES affect bird numbers. Ya think?? He's knowledgeable enough that I sincerely doubt he believed the stuff he was trying to convince us of earlier. Insulting is a good way to put it.
 
Hi guys my group hunted uguide pheasant camp the 4th week of seasons. Basicly it was the same guys as last year same dogs. The habitat was the best we ever seen in the last 6 or 7 years we have seen. We shot 37 birds in 3 days less than half what we did last year. We are not going back to his camp next year not because the hunting was down a little over 50% but some imo a very bad management decision on his part. Anyway I have reservations at a place farmed for pheasants and a lodge a whole better for $500 less per hunter

...but some imo a very bad management... can you clarify this sentence for us? Thanks. And $500 less - WOW, good deal!
 
Perhaps if one offered a criticism you wouldn't get invited back...

If there were rave reviews, I'm sure we would see them!

in a way, he is offering us the chance to golf at a private club...without having to pay a caddy, join the country club, etc...whether I shoot 120 or 70 has a lot to do with me, not as much to do with everything else...I need to do my part to shoot a good score...or, to shoot pheasants...shoot clays, be in shape, train my dog, hunt intelligently, etc...I am living proof that when the pheasant #'s were way up, even a slouch can get his birds! Now it is a lot tougher...you have to be on your game! UGUIDE does provide a "turn key" way to show up and hunt good habitat...no scouting, no unproductive time spent driving around, bs'ng with locals at the cafe or bar...hope it all bounces back next year...
 
Perhaps if one offered a criticism you wouldn't get invited back...

If there were rave reviews, I'm sure we would see them!

Criticism...I would bank on that getting you on his top ten ways to not get invited back!
 
Dogpile on Uguide,that dirty sumbitch.
 
I'm going to hunt south d. Next year, but I'm not going to pay these guys that charge, anything. I'm going to get on private land for free, and I will do well.Just saying.
 
I'm going to hunt south d. Next year, but I'm not going to pay these guys that charge, anything. I'm going to get on private land for free, and I will do well.Just saying.

Good luck with hunting private land in SD...for FREE. Not sure that exists anymore...
 
Good luck with hunting private land in SD...for FREE. Not sure that exists anymore...

As with so many things, it ain't what you know, but who you know. Obviously, the vast majority of land owners that charge for hunting charge year round. And then there's the "I'm saving it for my son-in-law" factor, which is extremely prevalent the first several weeks of the season. Or, "I don't let anyone hunt until after deer season." But once the weather turns for the worse (or for the better, as far as I'm concerned), you can still find the odd little draw, slough, or whatever that somebody will let you hunt. The trouble at that point isn't so much convincing a land owner you're a nice guy & responsible hunter. The trouble is finding out who owns the land & actually making contact with that person. Any more, I don't have time for it. My time is better spent driving straight to one of the many public areas I'm familiar with, letting Buzz out, & finding a couple roosters. If I had the work week free, I could devote time to driving around playing detective & obtaining permission. But such is not the case. Have to work on that.
 
Perhaps if one offered a criticism you wouldn't get invited back...

If there were rave reviews, I'm sure we would see them!

Our group of 10 will meet at one of his camps, for our fifth year, day after tomorrow. Last year our group killed 67 birds, we've averaged 2+ plus birds per day over 5 years, and that's with 4 guys pushing 70, whose priority is not slogging thru cattalils or walking tall CRP. Accomodations are not fancy, but very serviceable. Big great room with big TV, lots of recliners, big kitchen, big gear room, big barn I can pull truck and dogs into. Plenty of ground, farmed for wild birds with excellent habitat. You get there, say hello to your host, and from then on its you and the dogs. About perfect for our group, don't give a rats behind what bird numbers are, we're gonna make what is there... fly.

Consider this a rave review.

I'll also be up there hunting public in 2 weeks, looking for a big rock with blood on it, next to a fence post, next to a corn field.
 
Our group of 10 will meet at one of his camps, for our fifth year, day after tomorrow. Last year our group killed 67 birds, we've averaged 2+ plus birds per day over 5 years, and that's with 4 guys pushing 70, whose priority is not slogging thru cattalils or walking tall CRP. Accomodations are not fancy, but very serviceable. Big great room with big TV, lots of recliners, big kitchen, big gear room, big barn I can pull truck and dogs into. Plenty of ground, farmed for wild birds with excellent habitat. You get there, say hello to your host, and from then on its you and the dogs. About perfect for our group, don't give a rats behind what bird numbers are, we're gonna make what is there... fly.

Consider this a rave review.

I'll also be up there hunting public in 2 weeks, looking for a big rock with blood on it, next to a fence post, next to a corn field.

Chip is Uguides #1 fan. Maybe you should wait a week on your rave review.
 
Hey, if you book a trip to a warm getaway where it is 80 and sunny 96% if the time, we realize that there is that 4% of the time when the weather may be bad...not the travel agents fault!!! UGUIDE delivers what he promises...good habitat, namely...there are these years where mother nature has her way! You will have a good time...
 
Good luck with hunting private land in SD...for FREE. Not sure that exists anymore...

Yes it exists ----of this I AM sure----as 25 hunters from six states found out his season. I say no a lot but not always. :)
 
Yes it exists ----of this I AM sure----as 25 hunters from six states found out his season. I say no a lot but not always. :)
I find it hard to believe everybody charges to let a guy hunt.I hunt by myself, and I get on some good farms. You dont have to spend thousands of dollars, or hunt public land, to get excellent hunting.However, you do have to do a lot of scouting.
 
As with so many things, it ain't what you know, but who you know. Obviously, the vast majority of land owners that charge for hunting charge year round. And then there's the "I'm saving it for my son-in-law" factor, which is extremely prevalent the first several weeks of the season. Or, "I don't let anyone hunt until after deer season." But once the weather turns for the worse (or for the better, as far as I'm concerned), you can still find the odd little draw, slough, or whatever that somebody will let you hunt. The trouble at that point isn't so much convincing a land owner you're a nice guy & responsible hunter. The trouble is finding out who owns the land & actually making contact with that person. Any more, I don't have time for it. My time is better spent driving straight to one of the many public areas I'm familiar with, letting Buzz out, & finding a couple roosters. If I had the work week free, I could devote time to driving around playing detective & obtaining permission. But such is not the case. Have to work on that.

Agree 100%... finding the person to talk to just to see if you have the chance to hunt can take hours....

I spend my time scouting landowners in the bar at night and the cafe in the morning, not during the hours I should be holding a gun.
 
As with so many things, it ain't what you know, but who you know. Obviously, the vast majority of land owners that charge for hunting charge year round. And then there's the "I'm saving it for my son-in-law" factor, which is extremely prevalent the first several weeks of the season. Or, "I don't let anyone hunt until after deer season." But once the weather turns for the worse (or for the better, as far as I'm concerned), you can still find the odd little draw, slough, or whatever that somebody will let you hunt. The trouble at that point isn't so much convincing a land owner you're a nice guy & responsible hunter. The trouble is finding out who owns the land & actually making contact with that person. Any more, I don't have time for it. My time is better spent driving straight to one of the many public areas I'm familiar with, letting Buzz out, & finding a couple roosters. If I had the work week free, I could devote time to driving around playing detective & obtaining permission. But such is not the case. Have to work on that.

That's my deal...I'm sure I could get permission, but I only have a few days to hunt. I can't burn them up knocking on doors trying to figure out which guy owns that piece down at the corner. Thought about a trip out in the summer to try and shore up some permission? Just not sure it's worth it.
 
Back in Sept i counted unguided pheasant count for 2016 at 3262 birds
This year is at 1755 birds taken.He did have 8 camps in 2016 and 6 camps in 2017 so that makes a differance.
All this proves is you can't screw with mother nature no matter what kind
of habitat you have
 
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