Changing attitude about pay to hunt ?

David0311

small munsterlander owner said:
Those are your quotes on your profile page the high end lodge quote...

I guess I dont see how the private 800 acre rich guys pheasant play area effects the public land hunter besides it keep him off public but sounds like he payed to play b4 he bought land...

I'm sure you will be invited to hunt that private land so I see how it benifits you in long run...
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So you don't see how turning 800+acres of intensively farmed land into wildlife habitat as a good thing --

Why am I not surprised:rolleyes:
 
david0311 said:
So you don't see how turning 800+acres of intensively farmed land into wildlife habitat as a good thing --

Why am I not surprised:rolleyes:
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Its only good for your client & his buddy's & the wildlife they & only they can hunt .

Somehow I think id see much more benefits out. Of 800 acres of intensely farmed lands turned into 800 acres of public land wildlife habitat for all...

Maybe your well off friend can gift it or donate the wildlife mecca To PF & one day we all can enjoy it ??? Man that I can get behind as a good thing...
 
small munsterlander owner said:
No not Saskatchewan hunt I won't waste $$$ on a goose hunt to Canada??? Maybe a Montana turkey hunt???

Not surprised a guy who guides for high end pay to play ranches jumps in with a comment just wish it was pro guideing vs just sarcastic non sense... Thought u did not like goosemasters antics???

I was referring to nastymcnarfs situation & comments on lands locked up by guides & haymakers its just business gentlemen comment... Not joining the non stop anti guide dog box kennel non resident hunting construction worker club goosemaster runs at the moment... Don't really see eye to eye just like public land hunting...

I'd rather hunt with goosemaster on public lands then pay to play on a high end ranch near Pierre SD sorry to say...
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Sorry about that red neck, construction worker speal. It's just that I used to hunt with some guys like that once in a while, and they turned out to be real low brow types, that's all. Not saying they all are.There are two sides of the fence on this pay hunting, and I'm on the free hunting side.
 
small munsterlander owner said:
Those are your quotes on your profile page the high end lodge quote...

I guess I dont see how the private 800 acre rich guys pheasant play area effects the public land hunter besides it keep him off public but sounds like he payed to play b4 he bought land...

I'm sure you will be invited to hunt that private land so I see how it benifits you in long run...
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There will be no fence that can keep the waterfowl or the pheasants or other wildlife from spreading out to other areas. Might that not be a benefit to all hunters.
 
haymaker said:
There will be no fence that can keep the waterfowl or the pheasants or other wildlife from spreading out to other areas. Might that not be a benefit to all hunters.
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It Might benifit other hunters???.. Also there might not be any public nearby & might only be pay to play or private land owners benefiting from this land I really would rather see public lands & congratulate that...

I remember u saying u never hunted public lands b4 if u had u might see my point there's lots of private land pay to play in SD not as much public ...
 
small munsterlander owner said:
I remember u saying u never hunted public lands b4 if u had u might see my point there's lots of private land pay to play in SD not as much public ...
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Ya, your the first one to ever make that point. Thanks for the enlightenment.
 
small munsterlander owner said:
Its only good for your client & his buddy's & the wildlife they & only they can hunt .

Somehow I think id see much more benefits out. Of 800 acres of intensely farmed lands turned into 800 acres of public land wildlife habitat for all...

Maybe your well off friend can gift it or donate the wildlife mecca To PF & one day we all can enjoy it ??? Man that I can get behind as a good thing...
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Or maybe you could buy them out, then buy a bunch of equipment, then build a lodge, then plant the cash crop, then plant the cover crop, then restore the wetland, then hang a "Free Hunting" sign on the fence.
 
I don't spend 200 dollars, in a week of hunting every day, if I take the camper. 200 dollars a day? That's outrageous!! Cha Ching !!
 
ranchodeluxe said:
Ya, your the first one to ever make that point. Thanks for the enlightenment.
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Yeah your comments are 100% new concept's

Also your experience in & on SD lands can't be argued with you are all knowing SD analist anal being the main point...

Pay to Play private lands benefit us all i know I'm 100% wrong for wanting more public lands cuz they don't help out tax wise...

Gotta remember Im 1 of them non resident cry baby's & botard what ever that is & I can't spell good my points are not valid... All prior ranchodulux points...
 
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small munsterlander owner said:
It Might benifit other hunters???.. Also there might not be any public nearby & might only be pay to play or private land owners benefiting from this land I really would rather see public lands & congratulate that...

I remember u saying u never hunted public lands b4 if u had u might see my point there's lots of private land pay to play in SD not as much public ...
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I see your point, public is not as good as private. That is why I am in business to offer an alternative. All they have to do is make it to the ditch.
 
Goosemaster said:
What is this ditch stuff? I'm not getting that.
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Ditch hunting is legal in SD & I think un posted land ditches in ND some minimum mag roads in MN etc.

Once pheasants make it to the ditch there fair game is the point so them private land birds are fair game in ditch no matter if pay to play all around etc.
 
small munsterlander owner said:
Gotta remember Im 1 of them non resident cry baby's & botard what ever that is & I can't spell good my points are not valid... All prior ranchodulux points...
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There's something we can agree on.
 
Wow! We have really done some tongue and cheek criticizing from afar on this thread. I can find someone who pays less to hunt than me. I can also find someone who pays more to hunt than me. Does it make one of them better than the other? No. Just different sets of values, ideas, and economics. If the state puts in more public land that is good for everybody including the pay to hunt places. More habitat means more birds. If private landowners put more land into CRP, or wildlife habitat that is good for everybody. We need to work together on these issues instead of touting how my way or viewpoint is better than yours. In the end we all want to see more birds survive the winter and more nesting habitat for broods in the spring.
Guys we still live in the greatest country in the world! I travel to other parts of the world where the money you spend on a 870 wingmaster is excessive and out of touch with their reality! I think a bit of our arguments are based on a society that is pretty well off as a whole.
But keep the comments coming, I enjoy the banter as long as we in the end can agree to disagree.
 
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goldenboy said:
Wow! We have really done some tongue and cheek criticizing from afar on this thread. I can find someone who pays less to hunt than me. I can also find someone who pays more to hunt than me. Does it make one of them better than the other? No. Just different sets of values, ideas, and economics. If the state puts in more public land that is good for everybody including the pay to hunt places. More habitat means more birds. If private landowners put more land into CRP, or wildlife habitat that is good for everybody. We need to work together on these issues instead of touting how my way or viewpoint is better than yours. In the end we all want to see more birds survive the winter and more nesting habitat for broods in the spring.
Guys we still live in the greatest country in the world! I travel to other parts of the world where the money you spend on a 870 wingmaster is excessive and out of touch with their reality! I think a bit of our arguments are based on a society that is pretty well of as a whole.
But keep the comments coming, I enjoy the banter as long as we in the end can agree to disagree.
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I agree, will leave room below for SMO to explain to you how private birds are private, public birds are public, the two do not intermix.It has to be that way if his point is that private conservation efforts don't add up to more birds on public land. Some folks, mostly progressives, look at every issue in life from the standpoint of "wouldn't the World be a great place if"? I broke down the cost of the purchase of a quarter section, and to restore it, SMO thought we could all pitch in a couple bucks and the seas would part. It would have taken over 300 years to pay for the land under the pie in the sky scheme SMO proposed.
 
No Canada trip but I will be taking a dog trailer and a horse trailer to montana next year. So I guess I need to become a "trailer type" before I go. Living quarters in the horse trailer too so I guess I won't be the "hotel" type while I'm up there. And I really don't care what anyone has to say about it. When you're traveling that far from home, one has to pull trailers to be prepared. Only gonna be me and my pop but gotta bring enough stuff to be comfortable!
 
I have watched this thread for awhile now, very comical at times, have to enjoy people who think they know everything. These folks that know a lot less then they realize......we would not have the pheasant, turkey, whitetail deer hunting in the U.S. without farming. Private landowners play a major role in wildlife in oh so many circumstances. I live in a state with one of the greatest amounts of public land, yet, I almost never hunt it, why? I have invested my time and heart into foresting relationships with landowners, it is not just about the $. I go to high school games to root for their kids, I buy them a cup of coffee or beer when I run into them. I ask them how the family is doing. I give them a hand now and then. I became part of the community, helping others when it is needed. So, no, hunting public land does not make you a man, it just means your one of the thousands that have no alternative, no one to blame but yourself.
 
Montana Husker said:
I have watched this thread for awhile now, very comical at times, have to enjoy people who think they know everything. These folks that know a lot less then they realize......we would not have the pheasant, turkey, whitetail deer hunting in the U.S. without farming. Private landowners play a major role in wildlife in oh so many circumstances. I live in a state with one of the greatest amounts of public land, yet, I almost never hunt it, why? I have invested my time and heart into foresting relationships with landowners, it is not just about the $. I go to high school games to root for their kids, I buy them a cup of coffee or beer when I run into them. I ask them how the family is doing. I give them a hand now and then. I became part of the community, helping others when it is needed. So, no, hunting public land does not make you a man, it just means your one of the thousands that have no alternative, no one to blame but yourself.
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Definitely not forced to hunt public lands & or have no alternative I choose to hunt public same as you choose to hunt private...

You are smarter then my self but that was poor comment or point maid I've never said I have no options...

I. Also not niave enuff to call people who charge me $$$ hunt there land my friends I don't buy my friendships...

Farmers are not the soul reason for wildlife populations on public land they are a reason lots of habitat was lost over years in many areas casuing wildlife to decline also...

Been offered plenty of private lands to hunt from guys on this site I just never took it up rather hunt public...
 
Montana Husker said:
I have watched this thread for awhile now, very comical at times, have to enjoy people who think they know everything. These folks that know a lot less then they realize......we would not have the pheasant, turkey, whitetail deer hunting in the U.S. without farming. Private landowners play a major role in wildlife in oh so many circumstances. I live in a state with one of the greatest amounts of public land, yet, I almost never hunt it, why? I have invested my time and heart into foresting relationships with landowners, it is not just about the $. I go to high school games to root for their kids, I buy them a cup of coffee or beer when I run into them. I ask them how the family is doing. I give them a hand now and then. I became part of the community, helping others when it is needed. So, no, hunting public land does not make you a man, it just means your one of the thousands that have no alternative, no one to blame but yourself.
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I was with you until the last sentence. I choose to hunt public land quite often, even having private options. You don't have to kiss anyone's ass and it's a challenge. Using your logic, Mike Eastman has no alternative to hunting public land, and that is his fault. No, some folks like the challenge of laying down a whitetail, or mulie that most would pay thousands for . I think it's a bit disingenuous to state that someone who lives several states away, should be out here doing a PR tour in order to sew up some private land. Lee Brewer has at least six B and C mulies, all taken off public land in the Kootenai, you?
 
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