I answered a ad about 1 English setter female and 1 Gordon Setter female for sale. The English setter is 11/2 years old and the Gordon is 21/2" both were full blood with papers. I went to look at them. We took them out of the kennel's and the English roared across the yard and put the binders on in full locked point on a pen of chickens. They were both told to stay after opening their kennel gates and they both sat eager to go but stayed until he released them. The English was a little thin and he said he was having trouble keeping weight on her but then told me he only feeding 1 cup in the morning and 1 cup at night. My concern also was that both dogs were kept outside all winter in uninsulated plastic barrels with the end cut out for a door. IMO, these kind of dogs are not outside dogs in the far north where it can get -30 -40 below zero at times. -20 is common place.
He was a great guy but I believe he just didn't have the time for the dogs. He had a new GSP male pup he was planning to try and train. He told me he paid $700 for the Gordon as a pup and $400 for the English. The English was also pick of the litter, we talked with the breeder. The Breeder asked if we would sell her back to them. Not a chance. He was asking $100 a piece for them with the papers. I took them both. The English came with papers registering through the Stud Book. I will also be registering her through AKC. The Gordon had it's AKC puppy application. He obviously had done nothing with the paper work. I have things in the works to get their papers straitened out. They have both been retrieving dead quail and chukars. Just started them on gun fire with a 22 handgun and rifle. Really working on socialization with other dogs and people. So far, they are doing outstanding.
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