Your breed of dog and why

BleuBijou said:
Exactly!!! Why would you want a flush a bird without you sometimes knowing it!!! Dog goes on point, you walk up to reasonable distance, then release your dog to flush!!
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I don't want this to come across the wrong way or to offend anyone who hunts with pointers, but I shoot better with flushing dogs. Pointers tend to give me too much time to think about the shot to come. Just a weakness of mine you probably don't have.

One other concern or maybe I should say preference I have is using flusher in standing corn fields and large cattail areas. In no way am I saying pointers don't excel in these type fields/areas, I just like using a flushing dog in these situations. This is why I would want this breed of dog to flush not point if it were possible to train it NOT to point. Please don't take it the wrong way or get worked up over it.;):)
 
1pheas4 said:
One other concern or maybe I should say preference I have is using flusher in standing corn fields and large cattail areas. In no way am I saying pointers don't excel in these type fields/areas, I just like using a flushing dog in these situations.
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Good point. While I run Shorthairs, there are many times in exactly those situations where I wish I had a good flusher. Although, I would still avoid standing corn altogether regardless of breed, just my preference.
 
1pheas4 said:
I don't want this to come across the wrong way or to offend anyone who hunts with pointers, but I shoot better with flushing dogs. Pointers tend to give me too much time to think about the shot to come. Just a weakness of mine you probably don't have.

One other concern or maybe I should say preference I have is using flusher in standing corn fields and large cattail areas. In no way am I saying pointers don't excel in these type fields/areas, I just like using a flushing dog in these situations. This is why I would want this breed of dog to flush not point if it were possible to train it NOT to point. Please don't take it the wrong way or get worked up over it.;):)
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No Offense takin from me. All breeds have a specific purpose. Most importantly, in selecting a breed is how you the hunter likes too hunt, what type of terrain and game you will be hunting.
 
Thank God for all the various breeds of hunting dogs and the fact that we each have our own preference. It would be pretty boring if we were all taking to the field with the same breed of dog. :)
 
1pheas4 said:
I don't want this to come across the wrong way or to offend anyone who hunts with pointers, but I shoot better with flushing dogs. Pointers tend to give me too much time to think about the shot to come. Just a weakness of mine you probably don't have.
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I though I was the only one with that problem. Maybe we should start a support group.
 
1pheas4 said:
I don't want this to come across the wrong way or to offend anyone who hunts with pointers, but I shoot better with flushing dogs. Pointers tend to give me too much time to think about the shot to come. Just a weakness of mine you probably don't have.

One other concern or maybe I should say preference I have is using flusher in standing corn fields and large cattail areas. In no way am I saying pointers don't excel in these type fields/areas, I just like using a flushing dog in these situations. This is why I would want this breed of dog to flush not point if it were possible to train it NOT to point. Please don't take it the wrong way or get worked up over it.;):)
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Not just a Weakness of yours. One way for me to screw up a shot is to start thinking about the shot. I'll miss every time.:eek: LOL sorry for the highjack.:D
 
One reason that happens is your eyes are focused on the dog and for some they have to focus to the distance the bird will be when you shoot it. If hunting with partner or others, you could have them kick the bird while you look out further abit. About that time a bird will sneak behind you or come up in your face. That's what makes the fun and the misses.

Also, I hunt some deep, deep cover with the puds and they point birds fine and I find them with the beeper.
 
First I want to admit that I am an unsophisticated dog man. I have never had a dog at a field trial, any dog that I hunt with knows more than I do.
Having said that my dog works as a flusher in standing corn and a pointer in grass conditions. I don,t think a pheasant will hold in clean corn. When we hunt standing corn the fields are small. He goes in with me and I give him a toot on my whistle so that he checks in once in a while, and I see him at the end when he starts bringing me birds. Now I am sure that violates most rules of common sense among dog owners that know what they are doing. But it works great. And yes he still stays close when we are in a grass or food plot situation, with that occasional toot on my whistle. Does anybody else ever do anything like that?
 
I prefer a pointing lab because they work. Good nose, good retrieve instincts, mild mannered, and tough are just a few attributes.

Any time time I allow a pointer to hunt with me the pointer always ends up in the truck or kennel after about one walk or drive. Overactive, run too far out ahead, not tough enough to go in heavy cover, can't find dead or crippled birds, won't retrieve etc. I could go on but you should get the point.......................

And some of these were "show" dogs or "field trial winners" that took the owner ten minutes to tell about. Winning a show or field trial is a lot different than hunting wild birds.
 
CRP said:
I prefer a pointing lab because they work. Good nose, good retrieve instincts, mild mannered, and tough are just a few attributes.

Any time time I allow a pointer to hunt with me the pointer always ends up in the truck or kennel after about one walk or drive. Overactive, run too far out ahead, not tough enough to go in heavy cover, can't find dead or crippled birds, won't retrieve etc. I could go on but you should get the point.......................

And some of these were "show" dogs or "field trial winners" that took the owner ten minutes to tell about. Winning a show or field trial is a lot different than hunting wild birds.
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You just haven't seen a good pointing dog! :D
 
CRP said:
I prefer a pointing lab because they work. Good nose, good retrieve instincts, mild mannered, and tough are just a few attributes.

Any time time I allow a pointer to hunt with me the pointer always ends up in the truck or kennel after about one walk or drive. Overactive, run too far out ahead, not tough enough to go in heavy cover, can't find dead or crippled birds, won't retrieve etc. I could go on but you should get the point.......................

And some of these were "show" dogs or "field trial winners" that took the owner ten minutes to tell about. Winning a show or field trial is a lot different than hunting wild birds.
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CRP

Thanks for your Breed BASHING opinions. I'm sure that was the original intent of this thread.
 
OKIEGunner said:
CRP

Thanks for your Breed BASHING opinions. I'm sure that was the original intent of this thread.
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Alright guys, let's end it right here. No bashing or accusations allowed.
 
OKIEgunner, sorry to step on your toes...........
I've been in this game since the mid 1970's, in the heart of pheasant country, and have seen most every type of dog/hunting situation out there while hunting wild birds. Remember, my opinions (like any others) are FREE, and worth every penny!

Perhaps if you had as many ruined hunts over the years as I have due to dogs not suitable for PHEASANT HUNTING, you might cut me some slack.
 
CRP, you are certainly entitled to your opinons about which dogs are best suited for pheasant hunting. I'm sure there are a lot of pointer guys on this site, like myself, that would tend to disagree with you. But that's fine, we all have our particular breed of dog for a specific reason and not everyone will agree with our choice.

I don't want this thread to get out of control and turn into breed bashing affair. We can all agree to disagree. Leave it at that guys or us Mods will be forced to shut it down.
 
Good call Dakotazeb. If opinions are not allowed, why ask a question?

The OP question at the beginning of this thread was; "What kind of dog and why"?, and I gave my reply to the poster.
 
Dakotazeb said:
CRP, you are certainly entitled to your opinons about which dogs are best suited for pheasant hunting. I'm sure there are a lot of pointer guys on this site, like myself, that would tend to disagree with you. But that's fine, we all have our particular breed of dog for a specific reason and not everyone will agree with our choice.

I don't want this thread to get out of control and turn into breed bashing affair. We can all agree to disagree. Leave it at that guys or us Mods will be forced to shut it down.
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Zeb please don't shut down the thread. I for one have really enjoyed it and think it is one of the best threads on the site thus far. I have really enjoyed reading everyone's opinions and learned a great deal about dog breeds that I didn't even know existed.
 
No one is going to shut it down as long as things remain civil. The Mods have been watching this thread since it started because it had the potential to go south. Let's not let that happen.

I agree, it is good to hear why everyone chose their particular breed of dog. And it's not necessarily the opinion that creates a problem bu the manner in which the opinion is stated.

Everyone have a great day!
 
Young Bert, the not-right dog, built and opened his own micro-brewery, made a profit, gave me free access, and banked the profit in a joint account with me.


so there.:rolleyes:
 
CRP said:
OKIEgunner, sorry to step on your toes...........
I've been in this game since the mid 1970's, in the heart of pheasant country, and have seen most every type of dog/hunting situation out there while hunting wild birds. Remember, my opinions (like any others) are FREE, and worth every penny!

Perhaps if you had as many ruined hunts over the years as I have due to dogs not suitable for PHEASANT HUNTING, you might cut me some slack.
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GOT IT:cheers::laugh:

I finally figure out who was putting up all these signs.....
 
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