Mountain Lions?

westksbowhunter said:
My father-in-law worked for the KDWP for 25 years. He just laughs everytime someone mentions the great lion release.
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and like i said it might not true.. i mean it would seem like a bad idea when you look at the fact of human safety..i mean kansas isnt the ideal place for lions, not for habitat..but we dont really have the area for them to be as seculded as northern states..
 
I don't think they hushed reports they just never had proof. They get 1000's of reports every year. Most are bogus. The confirmed reports did get published. There are 5000 to 6000 lions in colorado and most people never see one but every tom dick and harry in ks has seen one. They venture through, big deal.
 
i agree that alot of reports are bs, and lions, jus as anyother animal do venture out of normal territory. could be for multipal reasons.
 
westksbowhunter said:
I don't think they hushed reports they just never had proof. They get 1000's of reports every year. Most are bogus. The confirmed reports did get published. There are 5000 to 6000 lions in colorado and most people never see one but every tom dick and harry in ks has seen one. They venture through, big deal.
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Thank you. I thought this post was going straight to crazy town. I don't think KDWP is trying to "Hush" or "cover up" anything at all. They just don't want to report anything that isn't 100% confirmed.

Just look what happens on this site every time somebody mentions mountain lions! The whole place goes NUTS!:eek: Guys were asking in November if it was even SAFE to bird hunt in Kansas, or would their dogs get eaten by the hungry pack of lions as soon as they got outta the truck!:laugh:

I went to a presentation by a KDWP biologist a couple years ago. He said that yes, mountain lions are PROBABLY in Kansas. They do have concrete proof that mountain lions pass through from time to time. They didn't, at the time, have indisputable evidence of wild mountain lions living in the state permanently. I think that was a fair and honest statement at the time and I believed the biologist was telling the truth.

I also know that I saw one in Wabaunsee Co last year with my own eyes, which I posted on an earlier mountain lion thread. I still feel safe going bird hunting because I have a tenacious dog and carry a gun.:thumbsup:
 
Last year we were hunting a WIHA in Gove county with an a fairly large patch of head high weeds. My dad can't walk as much as the rest of us so he was setting up watch on the exterior of the weed patch.

He swears that he saw a very large cat with an obvious tail run out of the weeds behind those of us who were pushing the patch. He said it appeared to be very dark which would make sense on an overcast day from a distance with 68 year old eyes. My dad, while often can't see roosters fly directly over his head is man that values honesty and isn't the type of person to make stuff like this up. I gave him a hard time for weeks, at least up until the time I went back to that area for a hunt.

While walking out of the weeds and back up through the canyon I looked down and saw prints that in no way possible could have come from the largest of labs or a coyote. The snow I had melted since the last time we were there and I can only guess that the muddy conditions left all the evidence I needed to be convinced of the presence of a large cat.

Many acres, lots of canyons and very few farmhouses are just the habitat for these bad boys and girls to flourish. The one positive thing for pheasant hunters is that I know these big cats don't care for dogs and would rather vacate the premise than stand their ground as long as they have room to run. Fortunately for me I shoot and miss a lot of birds so I gotta believe that the bigs cats are running well before I run into them. Lots of warning shots help....I hope.
 
CHESTERFIELD • The Missouri Department of Conservation has examined photos of a mountain lion taken Jan. 12 in a wooded area and says they are valid.

"While we did not find further evidence, such as tracks, we can confirm that the photos are of a mountain lion at the reported location," Jeff Beringer, a resource scientist with the department, said in a statement released this afternoon. "We don't know anything else about this cat other than it was here."

The photos were taken by Garrett Jensen of Chesterfield with a trail camera. The Department of Conservation did not release the exact location, saying it does not want people flocking to the site. It would say only that the site was near the Missouri River.

This is the 13th confirmed report of a mountain lion in Missouri since 1994, and the first in the St. Louis area in that time. But the Department of Conservation pointed out that it has no documented cases of mountain lions attacking livestock, pets or people. Mountain lions are nocturnal and tend to avoid humans.

The Department of Conservation gets hundreds of calls and e-mails from people claiming to have seen mountain lions. Most turn out to be bobcats, house cats or dogs.

Beringer said mountain lions seen in Missouri are probably young males roaming from surrounding states, searching for new territory, usually along a river.

Mountain lions are also called cougars, panthers and pumas.

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I remember reading somewhere,that anytime that you have a big population increase(deer),you will also have a big increase in predators.It only makes sense,that big cats have moved into Kansas. Now,I am 50 yrs +/- old,and have been outdoors hunting,fishing,riding,whatever,and have I ever seen one? Well,maybe,not real sure what we saw. Here,in SEK,there has been reports of "black cats" for years,not sure that I believe those,but who knows.
 
If there are lions living permanently in Kansas they for sure would live in Marshall, Nemaha, Washington, Pott and Brown county areas. I grew up in this area and have no doubt that lions have been living in these areas for years. My cousin from north of Holton claims that one was lying down in his back yard a couple of weeks ago taking a sun bath. I wish he would have gotten pictures.
 
Tpharkman your dad was 100% correct at what he saw we have alot of canyons around here and there are factuall evidence from more than 1 local farmer that we do in fact have lions living in our area not man eaters but you will see them if you are in the right area we find them alot at night when we are coon hunting along the cricks and there are places that you can see the ttracks its like a major highway for them in a few places and anybody on here that don't belive me can just get in the car and make a trip downhere and we will go on a nature walk and I will show them
 
Sure there are lions in KS. Why not? Big deer population. Colorado is getting more and more people pushing them out of there habitat. Those young males need a place to go and why not head east where the food and easy living is.
 
Gove, you have just confurmed my spicions for the canyons around castle rock. Not saying I saw one but saw somthing that didnt look like a house or bobcat. Big somthing.
 
turtle yes there are some big somethings running around castle rock as well as the whole area around it and further west into gove city and south good looking creature through binoculars but not sure how they look up close other than when we were coon hunting 1 night and saw 1 leaveing the tree above me and the dogs havent been the same since and we havent hunted coon in that part of the county since
 
Lions are the coolest cats in north america. If you ever get a chance to see one, count yourself lucky. They want nothing to do with you. Where there are deer, there will be lions, unless some part of Gods plan has been messed with.
 
...but wouln't "mountain" lion.. be a misnomer??... "Prairie Puma" would be more appropriate ;)
I've been keeping track of a little female (mountain lion) here locally hoping she will draw in a nice tom here in the next month or so ;)

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Had the privlage to hunt them in montana a few years ago. tuffest hunt I was ever on. The tom I shot drug a cow elk up the side of a montain I couldnt hardly crawl up. all while having a pack of hounds in hot pursuit. GCB I knew what I saw out your way just didnt want to admit it in public for fear of being accused of having a few 2 many.
 
turtle said:
Had the privlage to hunt them in montana a few years ago. tuffest hunt I was ever on. The tom I shot drug a cow elk up the side of a montain I couldnt hardly crawl up. all while having a pack of hounds in hot pursuit. GCB I knew what I saw out your way just didnt want to admit it in public for fear of being accused of having a few 2 many.
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Do you eat Lions?
 
"All edible parts of a lion must be properly prepared for human consumption, excluding internal organs
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page 7 I think, of the CO Mnt lion hunting brochure.

That said, it is a "white" meat that resembles pork a lot. However it is a 'carnivore'. And I don't (knowingly) eat meat eaters.
 
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