This is unbelievable Pheasant hunting

You guy whin to much, who cares if the birds are pen raised or wild? It was more birds than ive ever seen, at one time flushing. JUST SAYING great site no matter what. lol, this video has been on line for at least 4 year. :cheers:
 
Being a pointer guy. Having that many birds in a field does NOT bode well for good dog work IMO. It usually means sensory overload for the dog. Don't get me wrong it's a helluva sight, but to me that's where it ends. I've hunted SW NoDak for years and when we get into fields like that with that many birds, dog work in most cases leaves something to be desired. Even well trained and steady dogs can easily come unglued with the sky full of flushing birds. Give me a field with a couple dozen birds in it and I'll show you a much better hunt.

FWIW
 
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niceshot said:
UGUIDE, near as I can tell from the website the Warne Ranches is an incredibly well camouflaged 2400 acre pheasant hunting preserve. The website advertises a 4 bird per day hunt plus $35 for every additional bird. Unless Cody is breaking the law, he is operating under a preserve license. The video is obviously filmed December thru February and is awe inspiring no matter who you are or how often you've hunted pheasants in South Dakota, but aside from looking thru each beak there is no way of knowing how many of those birds are released.
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Niceshot, just because it is a preserve doesn't mean those aren't all wild birds. No preserve could afford to have released that many birds. Wouldn't make sense. Many preserves in SD have gobs of wild birds they harvest. Just ask webguy.
 
To me it would make good sense to have the preserve license to extend the season to the allowed 7 month period under S.D. guidelines. You can harvest wild birds as well. I am not saying Cody's birds are not wild , because there are scenes like this in South Dakota. I have seen this 2 times in S.D. and once in Kansas. If I could hunt wild birds for 7 months in the areas where I release birds, I think it is a no brainer!! Chris do you still have to purchase a 35 dollar preserve license (5) day and a regular small game to hunt a preserve area? Or do you just get the 35 dollar tag???:coolpics:
 
birdshooter said:
Being a pointer guy. Having that many birds in a field does NOT bode well for good dog work IMO. It usually means sensory overload for the dog. Don't get me wrong it's a helluva sight, but to me that's where it ends. I've hunted SW NoDak for years and when we get into fields like that with that many birds, dog work in most cases leaves something to be desired. Even well trained and steady dogs can easily come unglued with the sky full of flushing birds. Give me a field with a couple dozen birds in it and I'll show you a much better hunt.

FWIW
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This has been my experience as well in SW NoDak. I like seeing areas where the birds do so well, but my team of dogs and I can be much more effective in a place with a lower population density.
 
niceshot said:
UGUIDE, near as I can tell from the website the Warne Ranches is an incredibly well camouflaged 2400 acre pheasant hunting preserve. The website advertises a 4 bird per day hunt plus $35 for every additional bird. Unless Cody is breaking the law, he is operating under a preserve license. The video is obviously filmed December thru February and is awe inspiring no matter who you are or how often you've hunted pheasants in South Dakota, but aside from looking thru each beak there is no way of knowing how many of those birds are released.
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Niceshot, I'd agree 100% with UGUIDE on those birds being wild wild wild. Believe it or not, some can tell the difference between pen birds and wild birds from simple things such as traits/characteristics like alertness, movements of their heads, flush, speed of their wings, beat of their wings, feathers, and even head position when they lock their wings and start glidinâ?? in for landing. I guess when it comes down to it; pen birds are just a bit sloppier compared to wild birds. ;)
 
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UGUIDE said:
Niceshot, just because it is a preserve doesn't mean those aren't all wild birds. No preserve could afford to have released that many birds. Wouldn't make sense. Many preserves in SD have gobs of wild birds they harvest. Just ask webguy.
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UGUIDE, the fact that were having this little debate indicates just how well the preserve operators, and the happily cooperative SD GF&P, are doing at obscuring all of this from the public. The South Dakota law requires a preserve to release a minimum of 600 healthy adult male birds between August 1 and March 31 and at no time after the required release is a permittee to allow the harvest of wild and released birds to exceed 100% of the number of released birds. This means that by December the "ranch" in the video has released thousands of healthy adult male pheasants. I stand by my statement that you cannot determine the ratio of wild to released birds in the video without checking the beaks.

I am certainly not trying to ruin anyones SD pheasant hunting experience, and in fact this October 12 & 13 before the season opens I will be at a west river hunting lodge joyfully blasting dozens of semi-wild roosters, but I do get mildly annoyed when overweight ( I mean fat ) T.V. hosts wander around a preserve talking about habitat.
 
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1pheas4, I agree the birds in the video look wild, but are you absolutely certain? How about the birds released August 1? Does it even matter? Metaphysically can a bird born in an incubator and raised in pen become wild? Trust me, the lines in South Dakota are very blurry.
 
The video just looks stange to me. They are real birds and real background but it almost looks like a time lapse video or something, or two videos overlaid. If you watch the hunters, sometimes they don't even react when it looks like there are birds getting up right in front of them. There are places where birds are flying right into each other, and that just doesn't happen.

Not saying the hunting isn't great, but there's just something about the video that doesn't pass the sniff test.

Cass
 
Don't be a hater niceshot...every single pheasant in the good ol USA came from a released bird at one point or another! The video is way cool to watch by any standard, the habitat is really nice (which is the master-key that makes it all work), & I have no problem whatsoever with those who can & do choose to partake in such high-$$$ operations - I just have to deal with the cold, hard realization/fact-of-life that for me personally it is way too rich for my blood & lower-income country-boy upbringing...But :cheers: anyway!!!

I have gotten into wild birds just like that on the very first pheasant hunt of my life in SW NoDak (& I know several honest, God-fearing farmers & guides there who have raised-&-released MANY birds over the years too - especially in order to to help the population bounce back from extreme winter-kill years, or there would be no pheasants at all left in some areas)...Have also occasionally ran across much smaller pockets of totally wild birds just as thick right here in CO (and I don't need to look at any beaks to instantly tell the world-of-difference between cagey wild roosters & a bunch of this year's just released pen-raised dumb-butts)! :thumbsup:
 
Loved the video don't really care if they are caged birds, wild birds, real or edited video all that matters is that video got me super excited for the upcoming season! I cant wait to get out there and see what me and my new pup can do I mean think about it not a single person can truly verify if the video is real or the birds were wild EXCEPT those that were there that day and well boys that day has come and gone so lets look forward to some great hunting ahead. :)
 
You know I am Hen Hen cant wait brother, give me a call and we will be there!!!
 
Why would anyone travel to SD to hunt preserve birds at inflated prices. Four guys at $1800 each would buy 400 pheasants at a preserve in MN or WI. They could shot 'em all. :eek:


When you see strips of crop cover and the birds do not want to leave when busted out ... they fly and land back down almost in gun range ??


Give me a couple hundred acres of mixed cover filled with a a couple dozen birds. Good dog, fun partner and an afternoon of chase'n roosters.
 
BRITTMAN said:
Why would anyone travel to SD to hunt preserve birds at inflated prices. Four guys at $1800 each would buy 400 pheasants at a preserve in MN or WI. They could shot 'em all. :eek:
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Have always wondered why someone would spend all the time to travel to hunt birds for $300 to $500+ a day. When could go to a local preserve, shoot 3 birds, have them clean, get a grilled steak, enjoy some after the hunt banter with drinks, spend the night, etc. for less than $200 a day.

I am not a fan for preserves, but if that was my situation, why not do the preserve? Then again for some people spending $500 a day money probably does not matter or someone else is picking up the tab.
 
Late season wild birds fly a lot faster where I hunt. The video did look weird at times, thought I was going to have a seizure lol. I wouldn't spend $5 for that pheasant hunt. I guess, the dog work is more fun and getting one wild bird on public land with your own dog would mean more to me.

If that was what pheasant hunting was like, I would hunt grouse instead.
 
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