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Goosemaster said:
One time I mentioned Hilger,Montana. I was scolded for it.
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Can't you see that you're making his point? He mentions not having any problem with people giving a general area, or a state, and you come back with a very specific location. It's called hotspotting, and you were called out for doing exactly that. Some hunting web sites have rules specifically against hotspotting, and I'm in complete agreement with that approach. Lastly, I've seen you complain many times about the number of hunters coming to Montana, yet you directed them to Hilger. Hard to complain if you're in essence facilitating traffic.
 
Goosemaster said:
A group of 10 guys shows up,at 200 dollars per guy.Thats 2 grand for that farmer in one day!!Unbelievable.
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It's called a free market economy with all the bells and whistles of supply and demand sprinkled in. I have a group of 9 and this is our 28th straight season hunting 8 different farms for 4 days each year. Some years have been better than others but never pen-raised birds!! We don't pay $200/day but we pay something south of that. The farmers, great friends of ours, tried to stop taking our money 10 years ago and we insisted, so now they give the money their grandkids and church. You add in a little whiskey, a few cigars, and a fish fry or two and I have unreal memories made. If there were no pay hunting opportunities, the public access would be hunted to death - minimizing your opportunities. And...if i wasn't pushing birds off private ground on to public, you would have fewer opportunities for sure.
 
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dawgs14 said:
It's called a free market economy with all the bells and whistles of supply and demand sprinkled in. I have a group of 9 and this is our 28th straight season hunting 8 different farms for 4 days each year. Some years have been better than others but never pen-raised birds!! We don't pay $200/day but we pay something south of that. The farmers, great friends of ours, tried to stop taking our money 10 years ago and we insisted, so now they give the money their grandkids and church. You add in a little whiskey, a few cigars, and a fish fry or two and I have unreal memories made. If there were no pay hunting opportunities, the public access would be hunted to death - minimizing your opportunities. And...if i wasn't pushing birds off private ground on to public, you would have fewer opportunities for sure.
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Hunting is not like going to wal mart.Tell this guy thank you,and give him a good cigar. Paying no.
 
dawgs14 said:
If there were no pay hunting opportunities, the public access would be hunted to death - minimizing your opportunities. And...if i wasn't pushing birds off private ground on to public, you would have fewer opportunities for sure.
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Don't know what state your talking about but in SD there's tons of pay hunting & more public then anyplace else & it still has the crap hunted out of it. And plenty of guys still shoot plenty of roos on the public all season long. But any panty oyster who thinks hunting private ground makes better phez numbers on public has it backwards 100%
 
hyresmack said:
Don't know what state your talking about but in SD there's tons of pay hunting & more public then anyplace else & it still has the crap hunted out of it. And plenty of guys still shoot plenty of roos on the public all season long. But any panty oyster who thinks hunting private ground makes better phez numbers on public has it backwards 100%
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Easy there scooter. I see birds leaving the farms we hunt, gliding straight on to public areas every year and it's been SD for almost 30 consecutive years for me. I'm sure the public grounds push birds back to private as well.
 
hyresmack said:
Don't know what state your talking about but in SD there's tons of pay hunting & more public then anyplace else & it still has the crap hunted out of it. And plenty of guys still shoot plenty of roos on the public all season long. But any panty oyster who thinks hunting private ground makes better phez numbers on public has it backwards 100%
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If someone is hunting private land, and not hunting public... how on earth would that not make the public land better? Less traffic through a spot should lead to more birds, right?
 
Goosemaster said:
Rubes are big game hunters...
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astute observation. a retiring KS game warden was given a page in the state's wildlife magazine to say goodbye, express his views, etc. He said that in 20 years of being a warden he did not come across EVEN ONE deer camp where everything was on the up and up.
 
dawgs14 said:
Easy there scooter. I see birds leaving the farms we hunt, gliding straight on to public areas every year and it's been SD for almost 30 consecutive years for me. I'm sure the public grounds push birds back to private as well.
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Obviously what you're describing happens. But I think Hyre is right in a general, more long term sense. With few exceptions, public land is hunted more than nearby private land. Certainly, hunting private land may push birds onto public for a couple/few hours, as long as it's not being hunted too. And those birds may be roosting on public every night. But from, say, mid November through the end of the season, they'll spent the vast majority of daylight hours on private land, due to heavy pressure on public.
 
BritChaser said:
astute observation. a retiring KS game warden was given a page in the state's wildlife magazine to say goodbye, express his views, etc. He said that in 20 years of being a warden he did not come across EVEN ONE deer camp where everything was on the up and up.
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“There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”― Ayn Rand​

 
BritChaser said:
astute observation. a retiring KS game warden was given a page in the state's wildlife magazine to say goodbye, express his views, etc. He said that in 20 years of being a warden he did not come across EVEN ONE deer camp where everything was on the up and up.
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Yeah I'm not a fan of big game hunting.
 
You might appreciate deer hunters after a few deer jump in front of your truck and cause serious damage to your vehicle or occupants. Happens every year up here in WI.
 
Since I don't smoke or drink, those tokens don't do anything for me either. I just donated to Samaritans Purse for flood relief, I don't think a few cigars and some beer would go very far. So,. goose I challenge you to donate to flood relief. I can do that because some hunters have sent me a check for this years hunting.
 
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