These video guys

Bob Peters said:
I got on a video kick the last 3 days. 1 video had a guy shooting at prairie chickens over his partners heads. Looked unsafe to me, but I wasn't there and realize wide angle lenses can distort things.

Saw another one with sitting stone kennels called SD prairie chicken hunt from last year. It was 10 minutes of slow motion b roll/sizzle reel. There were about 6 gsp's running fast through the field. Then there was a bunch of video of a guy holding a prairie chicken retrieved. I don't believe the flush or shot was even in the video. I don't think that guy knew what he was doing. I'm wondering if he shot 1 bird all trip?

One thing I realized for sure, and I think Lucas talked about it in an intro/outro one time. Show respect for the birds. Hunting is a bloodsport and the goal is to kill birds. But holding up a bird for an extended camera shot that is still blinking, bill gawking is a bad look. When the dog retrieves a wounded bird dispatch it immediately. I also saw a video where multiple birds are shot, and a guy throws a wounded bird at his buddy to put in his game bag. I'm not getting down on other hunters, but have respect for the birds, and when you wound one, dispatch it quickly.

I still get a kick out of the fact that I'm Mr. Average when it comes to hunting. Last week I went to SD grouse hunting. Saw all these guys hunting with multiple pointers who got a bird or two a day. I showed up with a flusher and banged out a limit every day in a couple hours at most. I'm sure I'll be humbled by the roosters many days this fall. Either way I'll tell the truth. And if Skye or Roxy bring back a bird still blinking, I'll wring his neck as soon as I can.
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I saw a video where a guy behind a guy had to hit the deck 3 times!! Thumbs down
 
Goosemaster said:
I saw a video where a guy behind a guy had to hit the deck 3 times!! Thumbs down
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Goose for someone who hates these "video guys", you sure watch a lot of them. I don't really know what you are talking about because I don't watch them. By watching them, you are supporting them.
 
westksbowhunter said:
Goose for someone who hates these "video guys", you sure watch a lot of them. I don't really know what you are talking about because I don't watch them. By watching them, you are supporting them.
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These big groups are a bunch of boneheads playing grab ass and pay hunting.
 
Springer22 said:
Gonna drive yourself crazy worrying about this shit man. You can only control your actions and do you. Lots of dumb videos about everything out there
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A group of 10 guys shows up,at 200 dollars per guy.Thats 2 grand for that farmer in one day!!Unbelievable.
 
Goosemaster said:
A group of 10 guys shows up,at 200 dollars per guy.Thats 2 grand for that farmer in one day!!Unbelievable.
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Let me ask you something. How many acres do you think the farmer needs to have 10 guys hunt for a day? How about if they want to hunt for 3 days? Just curious.
 
Matt D said:
Let me ask you something. How many acres do you think the farmer needs to have 10 guys hunt for a day? How about if they want to hunt for 3 days? Just curious.
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would the number of acres or number of birds in the pen be the key number?
 
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Goosemaster said:
Well it is an amazing tool.I just wonder what hunting will be in 50 years.I know people will have to fork out cash to hunt anywhere, even on public land.Yes,it will be like that. You will slip your card into a machine before you hunt anywhere.
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It is like that now. It is called buying a license.
Goosemaster said:
A group of 10 guys shows up,at 200 dollars per guy.Thats 2 grand for that farmer in one day!!Unbelievable.
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I don't mean to aggravate you, but that is reasonable if the hunting is what they want it to be. The last group that we booked last year was a group of guys in their fifties. They said they had been hunting together since they were teenagers, and this was the best hunt they ever had. They paid more than you are talking about, and they are coming back this year.
 
I don't see what is wrong if guys want to pay. If you travel a long ways and want to know you have land to yourself, so be it. My luck if i drove 1000 miles to South Dakota and went to the first public place, there would be 10 trucks there. 😀 I have friends that spend over $200 to play a round of golf. They think its a bargin. I think it is stupid, to each his own.
 
2point said:
I don't see what is wrong if guys want to pay. If you travel a long ways and want to know you have land to yourself, so be it. My luck if i drove 1000 miles to South Dakota and went to the first public place, there would be 10 trucks there. 😀 I have friends that spend over $200 to play a round of golf. They think its a bargin. I think it is stupid, to each his own.
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You are missing the point.Eventually all hunting, even public land, will cost money.Stop paying to hunt!!
 
westksbowhunter said:
I am not worried what it will be like in 50 years. I'm worried about this year. Look how much it has changed in the last 10 years and how few birds we have. Prairie Chickens have all but disappeared in my lifetime so in 50 years, I am sure there won't be any upland birds left to hunt. Besides I doubt I will be hunting at 110 years of age.
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I worry about the future of bird hunting for sure. I have gotten my son in law and one of my daughters addicted to hunting......but I worry that they won't have the opportunities that I have ben blessed with. The west that I have enjoyed has been largely public and lots of birds of a multitude of species and very few hunters to compete for those birds. Urbanization, water withdrawls, stupid efforts by multiple western states to privatize federal lands, increases in huge corporate farms, ranches and dairies, changing to pivot irrigation instead of wheel lines and hand lines. Most of the farmers and ranchers that I grew up with don't have any children who are interested in carrying on the family farm or ranch.

I'm truly grateful to have had the opportunities that I have had but I don't have any confidence that those opportunities will be there for my grand kids. That said, I have shared many incredible hunting and fishing experiences with my kids and they are addicted for sure!!!
 
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2point said:
I don't see what is wrong if guys want to pay. If you travel a long ways and want to know you have land to yourself, so be it. My luck if i drove 1000 miles to South Dakota and went to the first public place, there would be 10 trucks there. 😀 I have friends that spend over $200 to play a round of golf. They think it’s a bargin. I think it is stupid, to each his own.
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I thought the same thing and I was wrong. Drove 1000 miles pulled into the first public we liked to run the dogs and walked out with 3 birds. 5 day hunt lost one spot to someone else. Could be worse around the bigger towns or off the interstate, they can have it!
 
Hey Munster, I am curious what do you see as the relationship between public (Federal) land and license?
 
Goose I have asked you this before. What do you have that has value that you are willing to give away? A shotgun or maybe your dog or a pickup? Why should I give away many dollars when it has much value just like beef and grain or hay?
 
Goosemaster said:
I've seen these big groups.Im sure they are paying these guys.
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This was part of the reason I started filming and sharing my hunts. I couldn't care less about the pay to play operations, although I disagree with shooting pen raised birds as it is not fair chase and I adamantly disagree with the preserves having a longer season as I know that they do take a few wild roosters. All that aside, a guy and his dog can have all the success in the world on public land if they just get out and get after it. I'm not too concerned about people hunting this area, as there are plenty already and it hasn't had an impact on my success or my enjoyment of the hunt.
 
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