NO Birds!!!!!!

I grew up in the country; I guess where i live now is the City; all my closest friends still live out in it. Don't know many of my friends who stayed on the farm who spend all day on the internet during the height of corn picking season. Just an observation.
 
Retrvman,
I like you am retired military and due to that have been unable to own land of such as some of these guys, I live in Co. Springs but my heart is in the country. All of my family growing up had land in Missouri, one uncle has 1000 acres. . Shortly before I enlisted my father moved from our 2 acre home site to the 28 acres my mother was born and raised on, so yes I am a city boy, not by want but by necessity, but only a city boy because that is where I live. I feel for you guys who have ranches, farms, I know some back home in Missouri who are having it so hard making it on the farm that some have had to take jobs in the city so as not to loose the farm/ranch, are these poor souls considered city fold because they work in the city.
I would do anything to own some land so I could wake up and see the beauty there on the place without as I do now see the smog out toward Pikes Peak and hear chikens waking up instead of hearing the neighboors coming hoime from an allnighter cussing his wife out but due to being a 100% disabled vet (not war related) I am unable to enjoy the things I hoped and dreamed of. So here is one city dude who understandes, feels for you and wish it weren"t so.
 
Vizlaman glad u got ur punch in. Im a hay guy still running my business. Posted this morning before I left to the field. 2nd time I posted came in to eat a quick lunch. Now Im posting because its to wet to bale. Sorry that Im laying around on the couch waiting for a response. I think the people that have responded in a positive way know what Im saying. !971s post was good. But I definately was venting off some steam over the weekends activities. Im not the only one in the local area that groups city people as a group. Its a general consensus after a weekend of madness. The poke about the motel and restaurants. Our restaurants our busy all year long. Motels are pretty and real busy when Obama doesnt have the gas industry shutdown. SO for those that said we cant live without ur support is a little obsurd also. The ones dogging me have already over looked that I mentioned I wear orange also just not as much as others. But anyways back to my original point of being grouped together. This happens every year and im supposed to fall over dead and help when I dont feel there is much respect. I have met guys off of this website that are great people. Everyone wonders where this sport is going. Depends on how long u can control the idiots. Not the good. So keep ur hackles up and tell me how no good I am. Doesnt bother me a bit. I love how i have got a charge out of some cuz thats how pist I was saturday. If anyone would like to know some of the dumb stuff that people did over the weekend I would be glad to post stories but Im telling ya it doesnt look good for people who dont live here. :cheers:
 
Hey big guy, I was going to park my 5th wheel your way but after thinking about it. I took my backside out of state so I could work some dogs in peace.

You just hang in there, it will be over in a few more weeks once the snow flies .
 
To me this is not really an issue of city people vs country folk. It is about ignorant and /or stupid people. I personally have given up going on opening weekend. This year I went fishing instead. Guess where there were more ignorant/stupid people. Started around 630am. Two guys were there catching fish. Three other guys came, saw they were catching fish and started fishing within feet of them. The facts are that Colorado has rapidly changed over the past several years. Not always for the better either. Places I used to hunt are now housing developments. Places I used to go fishing for free now have a fee attatched. Places I used to go camping on a moments notice now need a reservation months in advance. There is now a check station to put my boat in the water. Many of these problems are due to inconsiderate people who only look to their own selfish needs. So many people are looking for easy instead of working, getting instead of hunting. With fewer places to hunt, websights such as this that encourage lazy "hunters" to possible hot spots bring more rifraf to concentrated areas doing stupid stuff. Hopefully pointing out problems will educate those who need guidance and discourage the others. I am not sure it will. An example of this is the Friday after Thanksgiving. Year after year more shopper horror stories. So all this being said, do I have a issue with the original post. No! Sometimes to get a mule attention you have to hit them with a 2x4.
 
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I am still amazed that people don't take responsiilty as a whole. Too much well it's not me. We all have a responsibilty to the communities we visit to recreate in. A lot of people don't take the time to realize this. I grew up in a small town and know a lot of the etiquette it required. I now live in the city and am a "city folk" whether I like it or not. Yeah, he generalized but we all should look at this as an opportunity to educate our fellow hunters about how things work in rural communities. The post about entightlement was down right wrong, people think these communities would vanish with out out of area dollars is obsurd. Again entightlement. Obviously he feels very strongly that he has been wronged and from what it sounds like he was. I for one can say I have said generalized comments only to realize later I was hot under the collar and may have said to much. WE need to do all we can to make US as a whole better. And with that I am off my soap box and off to bed as there are "NO BIRDS" that need chasing tomorrow.:cheers:
 
Could not agree more on people being jackasses, but I can tell you that all us stupid city folk purchase the harvest that the farmers produce, help keep the small businesses alive, and bring money to rural economies, and most times I feel welcomed. And I value the farmers in this country and their hard work, but I work a 6 day 11 hour per week job and tyically only have a day off to go play with my boys. I feel the same anger when the farmer is driving down I25 during rush hour going 50mph and I am trying to do my job and get to a job site on time. Patience for our fellow man and mutual respect can go a long ways.
 
Pheasants

I have known Engpointerman for a lot of years and hunted with him some. I have yet to find a more gracious host, both hunting and not, with his willingness to share some of his hard earned hunting oppotunities. My buddies and I are still waiting for him to come out west to try and repay him on a chukar/hun/quail hunt. He is passionate about hunting, safe to hunt with, is an ethical hunter. Its too bad he is seen in a negative way on here by some.
 
dakkirbf said:
To me this is not really an issue of city people vs country folk. It is about ignorant and /or stupid people. I personally have given up going on opening weekend. This year I went fishing instead. Guess where there were more ignorant/stupid people. Started around 630am. Two guys were there catching fish. Three other guys came, saw they were catching fish and started fishing within feet of them. The facts are that Colorado has rapidly changed over the past several years. Not always for the better either. Places I used to hunt are now housing developments. Places I used to go fishing for free now have a fee attatched. Places I used to go camping on a moments notice now need a reservation months in advance. There is now a check station to put my boat in the water. Many of these problems are due to inconsiderate people who only look to their own selfish needs. So many people are looking for easy instead of working, getting instead of hunting. With fewer places to hunt, websights such as this that encourage lazy "hunters" to possible hot spots bring more rifraf to concentrated areas doing stupid stuff. Hopefully pointing out problems will educate those who need guidance and discourage the others. I am not sure it will. An example of this is the Friday after Thanksgiving. Year after year more shopper horror stories. So all this being said, do I have a issue with the original post. No! Sometimes to get a mule attention you have to hit them with a 2x4.
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Somebeach said:
I have known Engpointerman for a lot of years and hunted with him some. I have yet to find a more gracious host, both hunting and not, with his willingness to share some of his hard earned hunting oppotunities. My buddies and I are still waiting for him to come out west to try and repay him on a chukar/hun/quail hunt. He is passionate about hunting, safe to hunt with, is an ethical hunter. Its too bad he is seen in a negative way on here by some.
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You put me on to him a few yrs. back and your right on the money E.P. is Good People ! He is a true friend that will never turn his back on you.
 
Somebeach said:
I have known Engpointerman for a lot of years and hunted with him some. I have yet to find a more gracious host, both hunting and not, with his willingness to share some of his hard earned hunting oppotunities. My buddies and I are still waiting for him to come out west to try and repay him on a chukar/hun/quail hunt. He is passionate about hunting, safe to hunt with, is an ethical hunter. Its too bad he is seen in a negative way on here by some.
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??? You guys can rush to his support and he may be a fine person, but keep in mind the posts here are a reaction to the stuff Engpointerman wrote when he started the thread. Inflammatory and dangerous to discourage people from wearing orange. He got what he asked for, and probably expected. It sounds like he was grumpy after some hassles and not being able to hunt. If I meet him, I'll keep an open mind, but being "seen in a negative way" for an inflammatory post encouraging stupid behavior... that's reality. :rolleyes:
 
Time to let it go???

EPM brings a lot of positive to this board and, from what I understand, to hunting in general. I've never met him, but word from all that know him is that he's a stand-up guy.

I'll admit that I've made some pretty inflammatory comments in my day. I don't think they define me, and I don't think EPM's comment about orange should define him.

Maybe we can just let this one drop in the name of community harmony?

Just my $.02.
 
dakkirbf said:
Sometimes to get a mule's attention you have to hit them with a 2x4.
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I don't know EPM personally like some of you (still waiting on the privilege to meet him, notwithstanding any hunting involved), but if I read him right the statement quoted above probably best captures what he was venting over & trying to get at. I'm scared to even ask what really happened to piss him off so much, not sure I wanna know... :eek: :( :mad:

P.S. to Retrieverman/Greg: It was a pleasure getting to know you guys & tell that boy Colton we'll get him on a bird yet be4 season's end! Him wantin to ride in my truck & hang with me was a highlight of the trip, he reminded me so much of my gung-ho sons when they were that age! He was one trompin 12 yr old trooper that's for sure, you know it's bad when the dogs start getting more bored than the kid... :) :( :cheers:
 
hen said:
I don't know EPM personally like some of you (still waiting on the privilege to meet him, notwithstanding any hunting involved), but if I read him right the statement quoted above probably best captures what he was venting over & trying to get at. I'm scared to even ask what really happened to piss him off so much, not sure I wanna know... :eek: :( :mad:

P.S. to Retrieverman/Greg: It was a pleasure getting to know you guys & tell that boy Colton we'll get him on a bird yet be4 season's end! Him wantin to ride in my truck & hang with me was a highlight of the trip, he reminded me so much of my gung-ho sons when they were that age! He was one trompin 12 yr old trooper that's for sure, you know it's bad when the dogs start getting more bored than the kid... :) :( :cheers:
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Roger/hen, hen, rooster,
Thanks a bunch...he was a trooper. I was so very proud of him. Being that we didn't get into any birds and he only complained once to me when he was ready to head back to the motel. I told him how much I loved spending time with him and that I love him and I am glad he is my son. He said the same back and I also told him that if it were not for the dogs or him I wouldn't be out here.

We will have to meet up at the Springs church one Sunday and the pleasure was all mine. Wish us luck in Kansas this weekend.

Greg
 
Man, it looks like some tail feathers have been ruffled. I've been crazy busy and haven't been on the site lately. I too think this is more about those with common sense vs those without. Some people are just idiots! You can't fix stupid!

I think engpointerman has some very valid points. Stay out of the farmer's way and let him get his work done. Opening weekend is a zoo, and I avoided it this year. I too can't wait until the weather cools, the crowds stay home, and the birds run scared!

Here's to a great year! :cheers:

P.S. I always wear some orange. There's no sense in getting shot in the face!
 
well here we go again. Nobody has read my posts. The orange there is an inside joke. Once again I wear orange just nobody has caught on yet. So once again I hate orange. Please read my posts instead of skimming over the top and being pist. Anyways I will be vulgar here pheasinator get a grip!!!!!! Me being pist has caused some good discussion. My only point was for people that arnt from here pay attention to ur surroundings. Hen,hen is the only one that posted common sense for being out of town. BUt everyone else has me as the jerk thats fine. Keep the chit up as a group and see what happens. Not sure what else to say. What happens if the dow disapears??????? Obama can cut that stuff tommorrow and we all know it. Just trying to point out reality. I have had a couple more days to think from the original post. Why do any of us as landowners owe anybody hunting priviledges. Im trying to figure that out. The guys that are gracious will always have land to hunt. the guys that are jerks will end up not getting to hunt. IM over as said before. There is a small group that i will help. But Im not gonna fall to my knees and say oh god ur from the front range. I need to let u hunt. By the way pheasinator u have read nothing so u must be one that I have a very dislike for. Anyone that rebels must be guilty!!!!!!!!!! Everytime that some people argue with me I understand why our hunting group is fffff ed up. I promise our motels and restraunts will not go broke over one weekend of extra trafffic. Who put that in the minds of some. CMon u got the other 11.5 months to survive same as the motels
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engpointerman said:
well here we go again. Nobody has read my posts. The orange there is an inside joke. Once again I wear orange just nobody has caught on yet. So once again I hate orange. Please read my posts instead of skimming over the top and being pist. Anyways I will be vulgar here pheasinator get a grip!!!!!! Me being pist has caused some good discussion. My only point was for people that arnt from here pay attention to ur surroundings. Hen,hen is the only one that posted common sense for being out of town. BUt everyone else has me as the jerk thats fine. Keep the chit up as a group and see what happens. Not sure what else to say. What happens if the dow disapears??????? Obama can cut that stuff tommorrow and we all know it. Just trying to point out reality. I have had a couple more days to think from the original post. Why do any of us as landowners owe anybody hunting priviledges. Im trying to figure that out. The guys that are gracious will always have land to hunt. the guys that are jerks will end up not getting to hunt. IM over as said before. There is a small group that i will help. But Im not gonna fall to my knees and say oh god ur from the front range. I need to let u hunt. By the way pheasinator u have read nothing so u must be one that I have a very dislike for. Anyone that rebels must be guilty!!!!!!!!!! Everytime that some people argue with me I understand why our hunting group is fffff ed up. I promise our motels and restraunts will not go broke over one weekend of extra trafffic. Who put that in the minds of some. CMon u got the other 11.5 months to survive same as the motels
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Your not a jerk just stating the obvious!!

My truck got peppered as i passed my favorite field with at least 40 hunters in it:confused: checked my dogs on that side luckily OK,, went to another field the other hunters jumped right in front of me and my dogs as a 2 roosters got up and couldnt shoot:mad: jumped in another field and limited out,

Went back over to my favorite field birds still flying out, and took Jake out and found 3 birds for hunters that dropped them and couldnt find them as they had no dog!!!

It is just a few that really need to be taught how to hunt and ethics!
 
Not good to get ur vehicle peppered. My friend was loaded with a semi load of corn. Probly grossing 10000lbs. He said he maybe was driving a tick fast at 45 but anyway. See a pickup a ways in front of him. Next thing he knows the pickup slams on the brakes 2 guys bale out pickup still in the middle of the road and haul arse into a field after a rooster. He said it was all he could do to get the truck shut down. He said he was so upset he had intentions of taking a door off on one side or the other if need be to not put the truck upside down in the ditch. Where was the intelligence on this one could of been really ugly. He gained alot of respect for an out of area plate. with a mouthfull of clean words. :eek:
 
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