Designer Pheasant hunters

[moellermd]

I think you guys were very judgemental. My Suburban was new(and fancy as you state) at one point as were my pants and coat new at some point. Do I have to drive a POS pick up and have torn jeans to be in your club?
Dont be a hater because someone has nice things. Get to know someone first

$.02

I have nothing against the people or their nice stuff. I will be the first one to buy nice hunting stuff. I just do not like the way they choose hunt. And no you do not have to have a POS pick up. You have to have a POS car where the dogs ride in the trunk so you can save gas money to buy nice hunting stuff to be in my club.

 

[NOPLCLKNEB]

Moellmd, nice, I like it.

 

[JMc]

That's just wrong......but I'm liking the two car seats; job security for me

 

[webguy]

I for one would like to thank all of those "Designer hunters" for spending their hard earned dollar in my great state of South Dakota..... Without that money, we'd have a lot less public land and a lot less roosters to chase every year and i'd be willing to bet we wouldn't have that Cabellas either! Thank you!

These corporate hunters keep my customers in business, keep me in business and pump money into the local SD economy. I don't see a problem with it, it's just how you want to look at it. Some people farm the land and others farm for the birds and provide a service as opposed to a commodity.

Good opinions in this post and interesting viewpoints.

 

[NElabaholic]

moellermd I love the pic, i wish i woulda had a camera on me when I took my Lab out last year! I you can picture a 85 lb. lab in the back of a taurus in her crate that would be me, trust me we got some looks but we had a good time anyways! Who cares how ya get there as long as you're there and doin it right!

 

[BARTELS GUNDOGS]

Well................

I ride the fence on this one I don't hate those type of hunters I like to use the best equipment I can afford but if I don't have the best it wont stop me from enjoying a hunt ( i'm kind of a carhartt guy) I have hunted on preserves and in the thickest cattail marshes you can imagine and I enjoyed them both and all the hunts in between.I ran into a guy one time with all that new stuff his gun was even still in the box (and he didn't know how to put it together)I helped him and offered to let him hunt with me (figured it was safer than me not knowing where he was @ out there) long story short he was very appreciative killed his first bird .that was many years ago ,and he still stops by when he is in the area .

 

[Dewey]

I remember when my friends invited me to get back into pheasant hunting. I showed up with a new upland jacket, matching pants and new boots. Even went so far to buy t-shirts and thermo shirts just for hunting. The opening day the comment was "You look like an Out-of-Stater!" I even fit the "Can't hit a damn thing" perception.

Well, the one thing that has changed is my shooting proficiency, but I still buy quality gear for the hunt. It definitely will show additional wear at the end of the season, but well worth the money for me.

As for the comment of losing hunting ground because of the catering to the high dollar corporate hunts, I don't believe that. The extra licenses bought has allowed the GFP to open up a lot of hunting opportunities. I know because I've averaged 50 birds per year taken off just public land the last four years. Any avid hunter will find their opportunities.

As for the corporate hunts, let'em have their high dollar fun. You won't ever see me hunting that style, but, yes, I will have a chuckle when I see what Onpoint originally described.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Ah yes, a good argument going on here.

I have changed my view over the years on this one. In my younger years 15-30, I hated hunters like you describe. Fancy shotgun, fancy pickup, fancy clothes, usually bad shots. But as I have gotten older (39)(and richer)(not rich by any means) I have spent some time with these folks. And I have come to this conclusion.

ITS A FREE COUNTRY!!!! (it used to be at least), WHO GIVES A CRAP!!! If they have the money to buy new trucks, clothes, guns, pheasants, ect. ect. its none of my business. Its also none of my business if he worked his ass off for his money, or if it was given to him. (I'm not a big fan of spreading the wealth around)

All that really matters to me is this, do they hunt ethically, and do they support our 2nd amendment rights, other than that I don't care what they shoot, drive, or how much money they make.

If they hunt ethically, and support the 2nd amendment, I like them.

Ah, good, I feel better now.

Amen brother.

 

[onpoint]

I like fine things as much as anybody. I buy good equipment but my Kangaroo Red Wings after one season show I use them. My camo Browning Cynergy took a swim when I was trying to retrieve a Mallard drifting in 35mph wind/waves, sprinting in foot deep mud and waste deep water before it headed a 1/2 mile down wind. The mud was packed in the recoil pad from crawling on greenheads.

I'm no Dash in the uplands man http://www.hwhproductions.com/dashBios.html

Way too stuffy. The guy IMO belongs behind a cherry wood desk and drinking out of a brandy snifter

I'm more of a Dave Gruber type(rest in peace my friend) http://wolfcreekinc.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=44

Dave Gruber is what I'm like. Old School..show your ware and tear..ruff around the edges and all business when it comes to making use of every opportunity that a bird presents. It's about putting those special meals on the table, about tradition passed on by my father & grandfather. Working through tough weather, hunting only wild birds, working to scout them weather on public land or private. Getting permission, driving miles and miles a day sometimes. Just chaps my hide to put those who just drive to a location, pay somebody a fee and walk a mowed path. Than call them a hunter like myself. That's not hunting, it's shooting and killing. All for different reason's IMO. I do it for the challenge and tradition. They do it IMO for like most other things in their life. A must drive to take a short cut to out do others. I have a couple of friends who work for a construction outfit owned by their father. They go to South Dakota every year to hunt Pheasants. If you can call it that. They hunt on a preserve. Last year their bill was over $30,000 for their party. The first day of this year they shot 130 birds for their group. They take a van out there and get drunk all the way there. They get hammered every night they are there. That's not what my father or grandfather described to me when they talked about the great hunts they had in years past. They are the people who I see with $1,000 of clothes on. They brag, brag, brag on the hundreds of birds they killed. Like they are some super hunter. Sorry, shooting a bird you had to kick in the ass to make it take flight isn't much to brag about to me. In fact, I think it's about as far from my father and grandfathers hunting as you could get.

I'll stick to my style of hunting. Trust me, my special meal with friends and relatives that consist of the great game birds I earned with hard work and skill are far more appreciated than the forgotten birds somewhere on the bottom of their freezer come next summer when they are cleaning them out. as the wife and kids wouldn't think of eating those birds not from a store..Chicken only family.

onpoint

 

[EdgeWater]

here's a picture of the stretch limo we hunted in a few years ago

 

[Uncle Buck]

Moellmd, nice, I like it.

Beautiful. Kids get first wiff of the dog farts! No, I really like it. Just make sure you have no carbon dioxide issues.

 

[omsrud]

I spent a week at our place in SoDak and during the week we went to Cabala's to exchange a pair of waders. As we arrived in the parking lot. We started to laugh, several brand new fancy SUV's loaded with ..with..with, well I'm not quite sure exactly what they were. Each were dressed in the finest Filson or Dunn's had to offer. Not a speck of dirt or a pleat out of place, not a scratch on the toe of a boot. I looked at Ryan and said, I don't think you will see any of them walking any cattail slews. He laughed not a chance. those are mowed trail shooters, He said notice I said shooters not hunters. They are there to pile up pen raised birds for a photo for the office. Numbers are everything and they only walk those mowed paths through the Milo..if it's dry enough not to get their feet wet. I listen to one of them in a isle in the store. As long as it cost the most, he was than buying it otherwise it was not on his list. Why, only commoners would use such poorly made items. Really, I'm not sure exactly how these types really help out when it comes to protecting the interests of of a average Joe hunter who can only afford to hunt public land. Myself, I believe many of these types would just as soon see the public land hunter taken out of their way. In fact, it was kind of bothering to see this is where the sport in headed. Pay hunting will be the death of this sport for many

onpoint

Does Tom Daschle plan a new political life? You sure he wasn't shopping for a campaign commercial?

 

[Uncle Buck]

OMSRUD--You are staying up rather late at nite! Hope all is well.

 

[GoBadgers]

I have a new strap vest and chaps that I need to rub in the dirt before the opener after reading this thread. I don't want to be the guy straight out of Cabelas. I doubt I'll be confussed as "That Guy". I don't really have any feels good or bad about the "Cabelas Model". You usually don't see them after the second week of the season and they never walk the plum thicket.
Good luck to all

 

[dvmweb]

New huntin' duds.

Yeah, I ordered a new jacket, on sale, and a new pair of gloves. I think I'll drag them behind my truck for a few miles so they don't look new before I wear them! I most certainly wouldn't want to get in trouble for being too stylish! I've been down in a few plum thickets and cattail swales lately.
Walt MI/USA

 

[2cockers]

I'm no Dash in the uplands man http://www.hwhproductions.com/dashBios.html

Way too stuffy. The guy IMO belongs behind a cherry wood desk and drinking out of a brandy snifter

I'm more of a Dave Gruber type(rest in peace my friend) http://wolfcreekinc.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=44



I agree with you- somewhat. I met Dez Young at pheasant fest in Madison last winter, he seems like a really nice guy. He really , truly loves his dogs as I'm sure all of us do. I also am a fan of the General, however he sported some gear I'll probably never be able to afford but like Dez Young he probably got it for free or darn near free from sponsors. Not a bad deal if you can get it. The preppy hunters can be good for a chuckle but their licenses pay for the same things as mine do so I'll take it. And all the while theyre in their manicured preserves then they arent in my way, so no harm no foul i suppose.

 

[gsplab]

how to dress

I grew up in sd and hunted all the time. I had to leave the state to be able to make money so I could afford to hunt. I will come to sd to hunt with a 1950 single shot gun,a beatup pickup and a hinze dog. or I will come with my new suv an expensive gun and expessive dogs. I can spend a fair amount of money or just to get by. which way should it be to make you happy.

great hunting

 

[Rooster Roaster]

I can relate to laughing a little a the city dudes. i get it. But it's really just reverse snobbery. It's simply saying, "You don't fit in with REAL hunters based on your new clothing." Myself, I used to wear pretty grubby hunting clothes and snicker a little at the city dudes myself, but now in my middle age I can afford nice quality hunting clothes, wear them, and I really don't care what others think. Good people and jerks come at all income levels and clothing styles.

 

[onpoint]

I grew up in sd and hunted all the time. I had to leave the state to be able to make money so I could afford to hunt. I will come to sd to hunt with a 1950 single shot gun,a beatup pickup and a hinze dog. or I will come with my new suv an expensive gun and expessive dogs. I can spend a fair amount of money or just to get by. which way should it be to make you happy.

great hunting

Testy, Testy, sorry I have grown up when hunting was hunting not golf with a shotgun. When hunting a person contended with all types of things. Such as, cold, wet, muddy, sweaty full of burs, Etc. Not riding in a golf cart, hunting on designer fields with mowed paths and shooting pen raised birds. The first time I seen a driven Pheasant hunt on a outdoor TV show from England. I thought to myself, I hope it never comes to such a thing here in our country. Birds released from cages and nothing more than thrown into the air to be shot. Well IMO, that's exactly where we are headed and many who promote this kind of sport don't realize this fact. Someday pay hunting will be the only hunting. When all of us non-pay hunters have been driven from the sport. The voice hunting carries will be weak and near powerless. Just like the rich in England that never thought their fox hunting would be taken from them. They cut their own throats by thinking money would carry them through. How wrong they were. Throwing money at our sport will only increase it's cost to everyone. Soon the number of hunters begins to decrease(which it already is). Affordability, quantities of public land and accessibility to quality habitat by the game is what will save our great sport. Keeping numbers of hunters who can carry a powerful voice with our elected is where it's at. Just try and get on private property South Dakota to pheasant hunt without paying or knowing a local. The difficulty in doing so is the writing on the wall but I doubt many understand this or even care. As long as I can afford to pay and enjoy it now..who cares whats to come after I'm too old or gone.

Just take a look at Ely Mn. Many of you will remember the shooting rampage that took place a couple of summers ago. How very wrong it was but it shows the frustration by locals who are being driven from their woods and lakes by those with big money from outside the area. I fished Burntside lake at a fishing get together put on by some locals. They pointed out the million dollar cabins from shoreline to shoreline. Many of them were raised on these shores but were forced off the lake by taxes being driven through the sealing from outsiders and their trophy homes and cabins. Now that they feel like the outsiders in their own community. They fight all efforts by these trophy home owners with their votes and when there is more of the have nots than the haves..who carries a bigger voice?

Money is not the answer. It will just take some of you longer to realize this than others.

onpoint

 

[wisturkeyhunter]

onpoint
Your off point here. This has already been said but you don't get it. Guys that hunt one week a year with guides still pay the license fees that help buy land and other things that help everyone. They also are another voice for gun and hunter rights. To say they are ruining hunting is wrong. Laugh at em if you want, don't hunt with em, stay away from em, but don't complain that they are ruining hunting.