Ok, first, please don't hold my screen name against me, lol. Second, when K-State beats Iowa State, if OU beats osu in two weeks, there will be a three way tie for first. Here's the irony...OU will actually get the first nod due to the head to head wins over K-State and osu. I sincerely hope this does NOT happen. OU does not deserve to represent our great conference this year! They are mentally weak and undisciplined on defense, and I am getting ready for the "Venables Has To Go!" charge. If I could just collect a small donation from all my buds on this forum, I think within a week, I would have enough to rent a moving truck and park it in front of his house for about a week. The defensive players, as a rule, HAVE to have a Military mentality. They must be drilled and drilled so that they act or react, not THINK! If he has been so soft as to allow them to freely think, then he MUST go. I mean, Safety and DB 101 says, "NEVER let a receiver get behind you!" Serious lack of discipline. But I'm not bitter.