I have used a 16 since 1972. I have never felt the need to change. I shoot a Model 12. I bought a NIB 870 wingmaster for my daughter last year. They are both great guns. The 870 is a little heavier but a beautiful gun. The longest shot I ever made was on a hun. I stepped it off at 60 yds. Probably more luck than anything. One 5 shot in the neck.