Running birds

[519vx]

Yea that's funny stuff. I would far rather hunt with a rum-dumb pointer pushing birds into the next county. Your right it's far more sporting sauntering up to a point, pulling your underwear out of your arse, shooting your bird, then running him down, all the while tripping over your gps crap, whistles, and shock collars because your dog won't pick up the bird you just shot. Hunting with a far ranging pointers is more like a video game anyway. Between the tracking devices, beepers, hawk calls, special whistles, and whatever, kinda ruins my peace and serenity. Why don't you guys just buy Upland Hunter for the x-box, pick up a cornish game hen from the store and stay in the house. Meanwhile us Lab guys will be out in the deep chit while the pointers are pointing sparrows and rabbits in the knee-high grass

Amen, brother!: cheers:

 

[goldenboy]

I don't know guys. I hunt with flushers, I have to use electronics on them all the time. The prey drive is strong! I can call them off the bird, make them heel and then release them and they go right back to the scent. Difference being I am now 50-100 yards closer to that bird. Many times they flush it right away and I get to shoot it because I have called the chase off and let the bird relax, if only for a minute or two. I don't have enough days in the field to let birds fly away till my dog figures it out. Hopefully my training and their drive work together to produce a team. Maybe I am just driven to hunt, and shoot. But I like to pheasant hunt because I like to shoot birds and to watch my dogs retrieve them.

 

[Dakotazeb]

I don't know guys. I hunt with flushers, I have to use electronics on them all the time. The prey drive is strong! I can call them off the bird, make them heel and then release them and they go right back to the scent. Difference being I am now 50-100 yards closer to that bird. Many times they flush it right away and I get to shoot it because I have called the chase off and let the bird relax, if only for a minute or two. I don't have enough days in the field to let birds fly away till my dog figures it out. Hopefully my training and their drive work together to produce a team. Maybe I am just driven to hunt, and shoot. But I like to pheasant hunt because I like to shoot birds and to watch my dogs retrieve them.

Understandable using a flusher but this thread started by a member using a Brittany and I think most responses were in regards to pointing dogs. Pointing dogs, like my Brittanys, learn that the bird has moved out ahead and start to track it. We hope that the bird will finally sit and the dog will point it again. Of course that isn't always the case and we get some wild flushes. Some in range and some not.

 

[birdshooter]

I'm not sure shooting a bird that is "pointed" is very sportsmanlike. Kind of like shooting sporting clays and standing at the side of the throwing machine!

Sportsman like??? So what in Sam Hill is more sportsman like to you?

Taking a long shot at a rooster at the edge of gun range with a marginal chance at recovery?

Please enlighten us.

 

[mnmthunting]

Well yeah sorry This is a pointers thread, I'll sit back and learn. :thumbsup:

 

[Dakotazeb]

I'm not sure shooting a bird that is "pointed" is very sportsmanlike. Kind of like shooting sporting clays and standing at the side of the throwing machine!

Jon, really? Guess I won't have to worry about you shooting a bird over one of Elle's points next month.

 

[carptom1]

Jon, really? Guess I won't have to worry about you shooting a bird over one of Elle's points next month.

I have missed many a pointed bird over the years. I did shoot one over point in october. Probably the first one in 15yrs or so.

 

[quail hound]

That's why God made flushing dogs, no thinking required. All you have to do is release the robot, uh I mean, dog, they zig zag back and forth in front of you. Hopefully they chase some birds into the air and if you are lucky they flush the birds within shooting range and keep your boots polished at the same time. And it is really extra nice because you don't disturb the birds that aren't directly in your path, since the hunter and the dog are going to cover the same ground twice. Wow that really sounds like fun, if I ever have a lobotomy I may give it a try.

Obviously never hunted with a good flushing dog. I bet none of the flushing dogs here who cut their teeth on wild roosters, quail, chukar, grouse etc. run a windshield wiper pattern in the field. I bet not many of us dumb flusher guys are out of shape either though. Horses for courses brother.:cheers:

 

[Toad]

Everything negative that was said is 100% true... sometimes. And everything that was positive is 100% true... sometimes.

We are all exceptionally wise and intelligent people... sometimes.

 

[hunter94]

Obviously never hunted with a good flushing dog. I bet none of the flushing dogs here who cut their teeth on wild roosters, quail, chukar, grouse etc. run a windshield wiper pattern in the field. I bet not many of us dumb flusher guys are out of shape either though. Horses for courses brother.:cheers:

i do have to say i chuckle to myself every season, watching my buddie try to keep up with his bird busting lab....he has a great nose, but he hunts on his own, a little training would reduce my buddies heart rate, along with not having to retrieve his own birds most of the time.

 

[carptom1]

Everything negative that was said is 100% true... sometimes. And everything that was positive is 100% true... sometimes.

We are all exceptionally wise and intelligent people... sometimes.

Thanks toad. Are you running for some kind of UPH public office?

Ps. My dog farted last night and the smell reminded me of when you gave him a stick of that deer jerky Made my eyes burn.

 

[Toad]

Thanks toad. Are you running for some kind of UPH public office?

Ps. My dog farted last night and the smell reminded me of when you gave him a stick of that deer jerky Made my eyes burn.

I'm not going to win any elections when a burning-rubber dog fart makes you think of me...:laugh:

Nah, just adding my .02. Maybe it was worth less than that though, I never can tell...:cheers:

 

[Dog Gun Time]

Obviously never hunted with a good flushing dog. I bet none of the flushing dogs here who cut their teeth on wild roosters, quail, chukar, grouse etc. run a windshield wiper pattern in the field. I bet not many of us dumb flusher guys are out of shape either though. Horses for courses brother.:cheers:

Based on the comments of the "flusher guys", most of them never hunted with a good pointing dog and I have hunted with a couple that were great.

I thought the "letting the dogs chase all the birds away" line was ridiculous and I tried to have a little fun with it. So sorry all you "flusher guys" got your panties in a wad but I refuted an absurd statement with absurdity. I have posted on the forum before the idea that there are no outstanding breeds only outstanding individual, that's not original with me, I read it somewhere but can't remember where. I have no issues with hunting over flushing dogs but it's not my cup of tea. I am secure enough that I don't have to take cheap shots at people who don't see things exactly as I do but when provoked I can return volley.

 

[quail hound]

Based on the comments of the "flusher guys", most of them never hunted with a good pointing dog and I have hunted with a couple that were great.

I thought the "letting the dogs chase all the birds away" line was ridiculous and I tried to have a little fun with it. So sorry all you "flusher guys" got your panties in a wad but I refuted an absurd statement with absurdity. I have posted on the forum before the idea that there are no outstanding breeds only outstanding individual, that's not original with me, I read it somewhere but can't remember where. I have no issues with hunting over flushing dogs but it's not my cup of tea. I am secure enough that I don't have to take cheap shots at people who don't see things exactly as I do but when provoked I can return volley.

I apologise for the cheap shot and I know you were just having a little fun. We all love the same thing though, turning a good dog loose in birdie cover and no matter what breed a good dog produces birds for the gun. I must admit I have never hunted with a pointing breed, hell I've never even seen a good one. Just yesterday I was hunting an area and ran into two guys with a gsp with the hugest cow bell available on, only problem was the dog didn't have anymore range than my springers and wasn't even hitting the nasty cover. Those guys didn't have to worry how their dog would work a runner cause we wasn't going to find one. I would love to hunt behind a nice pointing dog someday, hell I feel kind of dumb hunting wild chukara in huge country with my springers but they still make game.

 

[Dog Gun Time]

We all love the same thing though, turning a good dog loose in birdie cover and no matter what breed a good dog produces birds for the gun.

Amen brother!! I have seen some sights in my years of bird hunting, some strange, some wonderful and some just plain funny but I would not have seen any of them if wasn't for my dogs. The Lord has blessed me with the opportunity to share the field with some pretty good ones and I am sincerely grateful. :thumbsup:

 

[mnmthunting]

MAN! it's great fun to watch a dog that knows there's a down bird.

 

[ruger3b]

I had a male gwp that would chase meadowlarks when they would flush ,used to irritate the crap out of me, dad said he will learn he is a pup learning the game. finally pheasant gets up I make a good shot dog retreives I pet him make a big fuss of how good he is, eventually he quit chasing anything but a pheasant.