Upland hunting during rifle season--who does, who doesn't
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SetterNut
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Where is Sports Factory? Since my son is too old to play anymore, I am out of the loop on these things.
carptom1
Well-known member
I am a no on this also. Some years ago I was in a duck blind during Missouri deer rifle. You could hear the round screaming through trees and into the trees above our head. That was enough for me. This was on a private duck marsh surrounded by other private land. I don't venture out, the season is plenty long.
Nope...he did just as was described. He pulled up, saw the goose decoys and thought they were geese. Threw a rifle out the window and killed the kid.
It was in Americus Kansas.
I think the incident you are referring to happened in Lawrence or the Clinton lake area. Poachers shooting deer in the dark shot somebody inside their house if I remember right. I do remember there being an uproar about the headlines, and rightfully so,..."Hunters kill someone in their house"...or something to that affect. The point being,...they WEREN'T hunters, they were POACHERS!
But, I digress,...I have and would bird hunt during the rifle season in KANSAS. But, I probably wouldn't in Missouri.
Toad
Active member
I make a bird trip out West every year during deer season. I agree that the weather always seems to be right, and we often get "the precious" fresh snow during rifle deer season. I go pretty far West, and have never had any trouble with deer hunters. This season we will be more in "mixed bird" country which could also be considered whitetail country... So,,, we're still going but probably will be a lot more conscious of our surroundings.
And I totally understand about not taking your kid. My dad steadfastly refused to bird hunt during rifle deer season, and I always thought he was nuts. Now I understand why he wouldn't take me. I won't be taking my daughter bird hunting until it's over.
On the flip side of that, a mixed bag ain't so bad. I am going deer hunting tomorrow morning, but also bringing my waders, shotgun, and a few goose decoys. If the deer hunting doesn't work out, and the geese are flying, maybe I can salvage some goose jerky out of the deal...:cheers:
And I totally understand about not taking your kid. My dad steadfastly refused to bird hunt during rifle deer season, and I always thought he was nuts. Now I understand why he wouldn't take me. I won't be taking my daughter bird hunting until it's over.
On the flip side of that, a mixed bag ain't so bad. I am going deer hunting tomorrow morning, but also bringing my waders, shotgun, and a few goose decoys. If the deer hunting doesn't work out, and the geese are flying, maybe I can salvage some goose jerky out of the deal...:cheers:
HolyMoses
New member
i don't live in kansas, so maybe I am out of place posting in here, but I found myself in the same predicament last week as out deer hunt was going on. I chose to stay home rather than take the dog out. for a couple reasons.
first reason is safety. even though I hate when people label hunters as careless or reckless, I know that many of the people hunting the area that I pheasant hunt are not avid hunters. I grew up deer hunting public land and was always amazed at what i witnessed. no number of pheasants is worth even the slightest chance that something can happen to me or my hunting partner. instead I took him to our normal exercise place and just worked him with the dummy.
the second main reason is common courtesy . Many people wait all year long for the "big hunt". I on the other hand, enjoy the woods almost year round. i imagine if i was sitting in a stand and a pheasant hunter came through I would probably wonder why when you can practically hunt pheasants year round via training permits or game farms, why that person would "need" to be out there during deer hunting. I too have had my share of experiences with "those people" and even though I understand I have the right, I would rather not be considered one of those. the thought of ruining someone elses hunt, especially if it is a youngster maybe out for the first time, isn't what I want to be associated with.
with that said, i did make it out yesterday. I saw some tracks in the snow that told me that there probably was someone in the woods somewhere either muzzleloader or bow hunting, but i didn't see any orange, and made sure to try to keep the dog closer than normal.
:cheers:
first reason is safety. even though I hate when people label hunters as careless or reckless, I know that many of the people hunting the area that I pheasant hunt are not avid hunters. I grew up deer hunting public land and was always amazed at what i witnessed. no number of pheasants is worth even the slightest chance that something can happen to me or my hunting partner. instead I took him to our normal exercise place and just worked him with the dummy.
the second main reason is common courtesy . Many people wait all year long for the "big hunt". I on the other hand, enjoy the woods almost year round. i imagine if i was sitting in a stand and a pheasant hunter came through I would probably wonder why when you can practically hunt pheasants year round via training permits or game farms, why that person would "need" to be out there during deer hunting. I too have had my share of experiences with "those people" and even though I understand I have the right, I would rather not be considered one of those. the thought of ruining someone elses hunt, especially if it is a youngster maybe out for the first time, isn't what I want to be associated with.
with that said, i did make it out yesterday. I saw some tracks in the snow that told me that there probably was someone in the woods somewhere either muzzleloader or bow hunting, but i didn't see any orange, and made sure to try to keep the dog closer than normal.
:cheers:
kansasbrittany
Banned
In an abandon distribution center, down around the AF base and the race-track. Actually, if you know where the 1/4 midget track is, then the golf course, it sits right by the entrance of the golf course. (this is all east of heartland or a 1/2 mile S of Frito-Lay)
kansasbrittany
Banned
Same here Toad. Dad is the one that instilled this fear in me initially and now I'm repeating it with my son. Dad would NEVER bird hunt during the rifle season, no matter the weather or any circumstance for that matter. As soon as I was out of the house, I planned a trip during rifle season every year.
Everything is different with kids involved. Sure, I could leave him sleeping and sneak out the door, but I don't want him to be upset with me over it....guess I better stick with batting practice and wrestling this w/e
Toad
Active member
Same here Toad. Dad is the one that instilled this fear in me initially and now I'm repeating it with my son. Dad would NEVER bird hunt during the rifle season, no matter the weather or any circumstance for that matter. As soon as I was out of the house, I planned a trip during rifle season every year.
Everything is different with kids involved. Sure, I could leave him sleeping and sneak out the door, but I don't want him to be upset with me over it....guess I better stick with batting practice and wrestling this w/e
Option B, get a deer tag! Find a farmer friend who is really anal retentive about safety, and take your boy somewhere you feel comfortable. :thumbsup:
If memory also serves correct the guy who was in the truck with the shooter also was convicted of poaching a record book deer last year.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs...9/kansas-poacher’s-sentence-should-be-stiffer
I have bird hunted during rifle deer season before. I went to a large public area within a couple hours of Wichita during rifle season one weekend and looking back it may have been a mistake, my buddies had bullets go whizzing over their heads in the shelter belts.
For some reason that day I ventured into the middle of this place 2-3 miles from any roads and was hunting in the wide open. I actually had a good day and saw a lot of good bucks. Everyone was too damn lazy to hike to the middle. Always blows my mind.
Anyways, I had given up on deer hunting but about 6 years ago took it up again when I started hunting with my buddy who had some private permission. So Im out there with the orange army. We always try to get a mule deer tag. No luck drawing a rifle one this year so we are going after them with muzzle loaders. We try to go where we see no other people. Last year we were in some pretty desolate places. Was some pretty country.
We're either on private ground or a WIHA that has limited road access and fences/rough terrain to get away from people out west that seem to think because its legal to chase coyotes with your pickup you can do the same with Deer. Amazing how close you can get walking up to one on foot. One place we go, but only during the week, the deer seem to have a trait bred in to them to be scared of vehicles. Its crazy, once fall starts, they could be a quarter mile away and they will run at the sight of your vehicle. Wish the lazy ass game warden in that area would actually enforce some rules.
For some reason that day I ventured into the middle of this place 2-3 miles from any roads and was hunting in the wide open. I actually had a good day and saw a lot of good bucks. Everyone was too damn lazy to hike to the middle. Always blows my mind.
Anyways, I had given up on deer hunting but about 6 years ago took it up again when I started hunting with my buddy who had some private permission. So Im out there with the orange army. We always try to get a mule deer tag. No luck drawing a rifle one this year so we are going after them with muzzle loaders. We try to go where we see no other people. Last year we were in some pretty desolate places. Was some pretty country.
We're either on private ground or a WIHA that has limited road access and fences/rough terrain to get away from people out west that seem to think because its legal to chase coyotes with your pickup you can do the same with Deer. Amazing how close you can get walking up to one on foot. One place we go, but only during the week, the deer seem to have a trait bred in to them to be scared of vehicles. Its crazy, once fall starts, they could be a quarter mile away and they will run at the sight of your vehicle. Wish the lazy ass game warden in that area would actually enforce some rules.
I always tell myself every year that i am not going to hunt during rifle season. But i always seem to do it anyway. Tomorrow I am going to hunt the benedictine bottoms. I won a special hunt there and have no idea what to expect. I figured since im already out i might as well head to nc kansas after and make a two day trip out of it. So once again i will be hunting even though i keep telling myself im not. I figure if im gonna get hit with a stray that just must be the way im supposed to go out.
good luck everyone
joe
good luck everyone
joe
You guys are nuts if you are going to bird hunt this weekend with the forecast. Even if it wasnt deer season, bird hunting wise Id most definitely be sitting this one out...ha.
Im not sure how I'll keep from freezing my butt off this weekend. Hopefully the muzzleloaders will work correctly.
Now if we can find an old mulie buck bedded up by himself, we may stand a chance.
Im not sure how I'll keep from freezing my butt off this weekend. Hopefully the muzzleloaders will work correctly.
Now if we can find an old mulie buck bedded up by himself, we may stand a chance.
KATroutman13
Member
I will hunt during rifle season. It is the only time I wear blaze orange while bird hunting. The dogs will have vests on too. Like always I try to make sure that I am not hunting the same piece of ground as someone else at the same time and if I happen upon someone else I try to turn out of the way to not disturb their hunt.
There are a ton of idiots out there (that's true at all times), but courtesy and being sensible will usually allow you to avoid major issues.
There are a ton of idiots out there (that's true at all times), but courtesy and being sensible will usually allow you to avoid major issues.
kansasbrittany
Banned
My uncle was shot AT, while wearing blaze orange and hunting on private land that only he had permission to be on. The truck stopped on the road, no deer in sight, and started firing in his direction. He started waving his hands (with orange gloves) and they kept shooting. He hunkered down behind a tree and they ended up moving on.
That's part of the story I'd left out to this point, and mostly b/c it could be considered an isolated incident. I'm sure this is the primary driver behind dad's opposition to getting out during the rifle season. Anyway, common courtesy and being sensible isn't always enough to keep you safe out there.
That said, if it weren't for the boys wanting to come along, I'd be out there this weekend.
Good luck to all of you who venture out! The weather should be perfect for ya:thumbsup:......and there are a few birds in KS still
Be safe and please share your tales upon return:cheers:
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cheesy
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Why don't you wear blaze orange any other time? You're free to do as you please of course, but just curious.
westksbowhunter
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Nope I am referring to this incident. Shooting geese from a vehicle with a rifle is poaching. Not a hunting incident. The guy was a worthless pos poacher who again a couple of years later was arrested for poaching. A repeat offender.
kick them up
Active member
KB,
What he said!! Back from West side of state. Our host Rancher released cattle into the area we were hunting due to temps and the beef needing running water. Deer dont like cattle so back to the east side of the state. I did see one rooster when walking a WHIA CRP I saw a monster buck (30 incher)in on the opener. Problem was I saw a rooster with a 30.06 in my hands not my pop gun. I will be taking my youngest tomorrow evening and getting in our deer box(thank God for propane heaters). Then saying in the Siler Bullet camper till sunday. Gonna be COLD so if taking a kid a ground blind / box blind with a heater is a must. Good luck to all and I would hunt and did hunt this yesterday and am not worried at all too cold for most guys
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