onpoint
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What's up with the person's that are "Anti Magnum" anything, be it 10, 12, 16, 20 or 28?
It's like the anti Christ to some.
If you tell them you shoot a 10ga for waterfowl. They just about loose their mind. Then there's the 12ga "Roman Candle' the ultimate sin 3.5" 12ga.
The 3" 20ga
The 1.25oz 16ga
1oz 28ga
God for bid...Fioochi had a 3" 28ga listed at one time. My God, they flipped. Why would they do this. They are going to wreck this great upland gun by introducing such a thing.
It just stymies me. I have even seen that folks would label anybody using any of the above as a poor hunter if you need these.
I have shot 1.25oz 16ga loads for years. They were the standard go to load back in the hay day of waterfowling or chasing wild roosters late in the fall.
I have had a 10ga auto loader for as many years as they have been made. My Remington has to be 25 or more years old. Killed 100's if not 1,000's of geese with it. Before that, it was several Ithaca Mag-10's. Same with the 3.5" 12ga. I have put a lot of ducks and geese in the freezer with one and have the pictures to prove it.
My dad started me off with a 3" 410 and I moved to the 3" 20ga until I was old enough to drive about. Then I was on to bigger and better but have had a long love affair with the 3" 1.25oz 20ga in #6 or #7-1/2.
Why is it, they only let you use 1-1/8 oz loads at the trap and skeet ranges when using a 12ga? Why does the range master make anybody caught shooting a hunting load, "Stop Shooting" and gets them a box of target loads? It's simply too much of a advantage and hens the rule of no more then 1-1/8oz load is to be used.
The pattern board is only one dimensional. It does not show shot string. A longer shot string gives the possibility of more chance of catching the bird in your pattern, then if the shot string is shorter.
Let the fur fly...Problem is, too many go on this anti magnum thing and go with a lighter load because they read this somewhere. Not that they actually even patterned any load. I bet far more then 90% have never even patterned their gun EVER! You can ask why are you shooting this light load? Oh, I read in blah, blah magazine that this load patterns better or better yet. I read it on the net on a talk forum. Well, that settles it, it was on the net...it's gospel.
Which would you prefer, I throw two rocks at you from 20ft away or I throw I throw a whole hand full of rocks at you from 20ft away. There's a pretty good chance I will miss you with two rocks but I bet I connect with the whole hand full of rocks.
You ever see a turkey pattern board after it's been shot with 2-1/4oz of #6's? You can't stuff much more shot into a 12ga hull. Yet it is the choice by far of most turkey hunters.
I know all about the square load thing. I have shot plenty of birds with a light load and had that bird run off wounded, where a heavier load left them stone dead. Nothing I hate more then loosing a bird. It makes me sick, I would go as far as wrecking my day on some occasions.
I am a magnum man, always have and always will be. The time is too short that we have to be out in the fields and woods and taking what amounts to be a trap load with to harvest the beloved table fair one can't buy in the store just doesn't cut it for me. It would be great if we hunted in a perfect world where birds always jump 15-20 yards from us or ducks commit and drop in our face but face facts..that's just not the way it always is. Nothing cranks me up more then taking someone who shoots these type of loads. Then have them not shoot at birds repeatedly over and over with the excuse it was too far. When you know you could have dumped any one of those birds with your gun and ammo combo. A wasted day with little to show for it. Then you feeling obligated to send half your limit home with them. As I said, too little time there is to waste those very limited days accomplishing little more then enjoying the weather.
Onpoint
It's like the anti Christ to some.
If you tell them you shoot a 10ga for waterfowl. They just about loose their mind. Then there's the 12ga "Roman Candle' the ultimate sin 3.5" 12ga.
The 3" 20ga
The 1.25oz 16ga
1oz 28ga
God for bid...Fioochi had a 3" 28ga listed at one time. My God, they flipped. Why would they do this. They are going to wreck this great upland gun by introducing such a thing.
It just stymies me. I have even seen that folks would label anybody using any of the above as a poor hunter if you need these.
I have shot 1.25oz 16ga loads for years. They were the standard go to load back in the hay day of waterfowling or chasing wild roosters late in the fall.
I have had a 10ga auto loader for as many years as they have been made. My Remington has to be 25 or more years old. Killed 100's if not 1,000's of geese with it. Before that, it was several Ithaca Mag-10's. Same with the 3.5" 12ga. I have put a lot of ducks and geese in the freezer with one and have the pictures to prove it.
My dad started me off with a 3" 410 and I moved to the 3" 20ga until I was old enough to drive about. Then I was on to bigger and better but have had a long love affair with the 3" 1.25oz 20ga in #6 or #7-1/2.
Why is it, they only let you use 1-1/8 oz loads at the trap and skeet ranges when using a 12ga? Why does the range master make anybody caught shooting a hunting load, "Stop Shooting" and gets them a box of target loads? It's simply too much of a advantage and hens the rule of no more then 1-1/8oz load is to be used.
The pattern board is only one dimensional. It does not show shot string. A longer shot string gives the possibility of more chance of catching the bird in your pattern, then if the shot string is shorter.
Let the fur fly...Problem is, too many go on this anti magnum thing and go with a lighter load because they read this somewhere. Not that they actually even patterned any load. I bet far more then 90% have never even patterned their gun EVER! You can ask why are you shooting this light load? Oh, I read in blah, blah magazine that this load patterns better or better yet. I read it on the net on a talk forum. Well, that settles it, it was on the net...it's gospel.
Which would you prefer, I throw two rocks at you from 20ft away or I throw I throw a whole hand full of rocks at you from 20ft away. There's a pretty good chance I will miss you with two rocks but I bet I connect with the whole hand full of rocks.
You ever see a turkey pattern board after it's been shot with 2-1/4oz of #6's? You can't stuff much more shot into a 12ga hull. Yet it is the choice by far of most turkey hunters.
I know all about the square load thing. I have shot plenty of birds with a light load and had that bird run off wounded, where a heavier load left them stone dead. Nothing I hate more then loosing a bird. It makes me sick, I would go as far as wrecking my day on some occasions.
I am a magnum man, always have and always will be. The time is too short that we have to be out in the fields and woods and taking what amounts to be a trap load with to harvest the beloved table fair one can't buy in the store just doesn't cut it for me. It would be great if we hunted in a perfect world where birds always jump 15-20 yards from us or ducks commit and drop in our face but face facts..that's just not the way it always is. Nothing cranks me up more then taking someone who shoots these type of loads. Then have them not shoot at birds repeatedly over and over with the excuse it was too far. When you know you could have dumped any one of those birds with your gun and ammo combo. A wasted day with little to show for it. Then you feeling obligated to send half your limit home with them. As I said, too little time there is to waste those very limited days accomplishing little more then enjoying the weather.
Onpoint
