South Dakota prairie land in danger of losing hunter's paradise

jaytee said:
So which one is Dennis Anderson?
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I'm not sure if I'm reading your post right Jaytee. Forgive me if I'm misreading it.

If your asking who is he as in "a UPH blogger" he is not. If he is that's fine, but no one knows it.

Anyway, mmhunting was referring to Dennis Andersen's article posted on the first page of the thread not a UPH member.:)
 
fsentkilr said:
A few points to make before I go get in the tractor. Myself my dad and brother own 7000 acres. Our of that, 800 is in filter strip and upland bird buffers. We are collecting about 60 bucks per acre on them, when we could make over 100 and 300 or more per acre the last few years. I own 640 acres in Finney County. Of this I enrolled 240 in WRP which will be a permanent wetland easement forever. There is also 130 acres of pasture which I leave for the pheasants and quail. There are also 2 newly established windbreaks which I spent all summer watering. I also ran a windmill all summer so the birds and deer had water. I have planted thousands of shrubs in the corners of our fields and along waterway berms and fence rows. All of our waterways I have seeded to native grass not fescue like most. Over the years we have built several watershed lakes and ponds all without any government help. So you can see why I get frustrated when I come on here and listen to guys talk about how farmers are out to do all they can to destroy habitat. At least in our area, that couldn't be farther from the truth. I do get reminded on here every so often why I don't let city slickers hunt however and it is because that attitude prevails among to many of them.
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Wouldn't you agree though that the way you manage your farm is more in the minority rahter than the majority of farmers? Not a whole lot of farmers pheasant hunt or are avid by any means. Many more are interested in deer hunting.
 
Before I get banned I want everyone to know that I have a confession to make......

Yes.....I am a city slicker:D Grew up in South Minneapolis and now call Lakeville MN my home. Well I'm off to Target, HomeDepot, Walmart and Menards!
 
UGUIDE said:
Before I get banned I want everyone to know that I have a confession to make......

Yes.....I am a city slicker:D Grew up in South Minneapolis and now call Lakeville MN my home. Well I'm off to Target, HomeDepot, Walmart and Menards!
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:laugh: Is there a homedepot in lakeville u must be driving to barnsville or the Happy valley lakeville is to High class to have a wally world :D
 
moellermd said:
That will get you banned there is only one store to go to in the cities, Fleet Farm.
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I thought all those places are where the city slickers buy bales of straw for $8.00 or "lady sized" 45# bags of squirrel corn for $8.50. Submitted by a repentent third strike loser on the pheasant forum
 
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UGUIDE said:
Dooh! I just forgot to mention that one! I usually frequent that the most but I did not mention as I wanted to appear more "citified".

(Don't forget Gander across the road)
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I let you make it up to me. My wife and I will be up there in March and you can take us to eat at Ruth Chris or Mccormick and Schmicks your choice. :cheers:
 
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Similar "modern" farming "tactics" began to gain steam and dominate Ohio's farmland more than 40 years ago. Today the existence of wild pheasants in Ohio are mostly a myth. There's simply not enough public interest to maintain support of AG practices that are environmentally sound in the long term. Pheasants and quail are like canaries in the coal mine and in my opinion the current course of AG production and land use in the U.S. is forwarding a collapse of biblical proportions.



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hunter94 said:
SD stands to lose millions in yearly revenue if pheasant habitat is severly reduced......sure the preserves will survive, but why would an NR drive hundreds of miles to shoot pen raised birds, when you can do that at home?
(although some do that now, they just don't know any better)

hopefully the wild pheasant population never declines to that degree.....:eek:
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You got that right. I don't understand why they drive out there to pay to do it now, but they do.
 
FCSpringer said:
You got that right. I don't understand why they drive out there to pay to do it now, but they do.
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Just because you pay to hunt does not mean they are pen raised birds. The preserves are but there are places that do not turn birds loose.
 
haymaker said:
Just because you pay to hunt does not mean they are pen raised birds. The preserves are but there are places that do not turn birds loose.
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Pay to hunt areas aren't required to release birds to offset kill? It seems odd that they would be such large numbers of roosters showing up in spite of hunting pressure.
 
morrismike said:
Pay to hunt areas aren't required to release birds to offset kill? It seems odd that they would be such large numbers of roosters showing up in spite of hunting pressure.[/QUOTE

Preserves are required to release birds and replace birds. Other than that I don't think it is odd at all. In my case I have lots of winter habitat and probably 400 acres of nesting habitat scattered over 12 quarters of land. When winter gets tough like last year. I feed them. I work hard to make sure that the habitat is here to produce birds.
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The percent of released birds to wild ones in SD has got to be really small.
Some of those pricey outfits do release roosters just before clients arrive.
 
mnmthunting said:
The percent of released birds to wild ones in SD has got to be really small.
Some of those pricey outfits do release roosters just before clients arrive.
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I believe by law. They have to release so many birds into the wild, as part of the shooting preserve laws.
 
mnmthunting said:
The percent of released birds to wild ones in SD has got to be really small.
Some of those pricey outfits do release roosters just before clients arrive.
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Field trials and put and take outfits can't find birds because they are all going to SD. I'm thinking there are a lot more released birds than is let on.
 
I did release 25 huns a year for a few years trying to get them restablished. That did not work but other than that I don't ever release birds.
 
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