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mustistuff said:
the bottom line I think is that we were not there so don't really know the scoop. if you can't handle an accident, stay home and even then pray. I tell all the people I hunt with and it's not many, the rule is we do not shoot birds on the ground and that my dogs can't fly. you don't have to kill the bird, be careful. that said, when bogey died he had a couple of pellets in the top backside of his head, I could feel them when ever I rubbed his head. in this case I could not see bogey cause of the deep cover, I was shooting a rising rooster at 40 yds, imp. cly. while the bird was about 10ft over the top of the weeds, he was still hit by a couple of flyers. didn't seem to bother him and I didn't know of the problem for several days later, but, it happened and there is a saying that covers that.

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I sure hope I am misunderstanding what you are saying. You are basically saying that if a dog get hit it is chalked up to the $hit happens category? Would you feel the same if your kid came home with pellets in him?

There is NO reason a dog should get pelleted. If he did, then you were not taking a safe shot....period.
Last I checked, dogs dont wear air jordans.
 
mstand said:
I sure hope I am misunderstanding what you are saying. You are basically saying that if a dog get hit it is chalked up to the $hit happens category? Would you feel the same if your kid came home with pellets in him?

There is NO reason a dog should get pelleted. If he did, then you were not taking a safe shot....period.
Last I checked, dogs dont wear air jordans.
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no. I am saying that things happen and sometimes there is nothing you can do about it, carelessness is sometimes in one's own mind and nobody is perfect. this is really a pretty small issue, want a serious one, take cars, take cel phones, texting and driving, etc. sounds like you are either short on experience or think you have found your own pedestal.

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mustistuff said:
no. I am saying that things happen and sometimes there is nothing you can do about it, carelessness is sometimes in one's own mind and nobody is perfect. this is really a pretty small issue, want a serious one, take cars, take cel phones, texting and driving, etc. sounds like you are either short on experience or think you have found your own pedestal.

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Gun safety is no small issue. The only thing I am short of is patients for small minded individuals who take the $hit happens approach to any kind of accident.

You should take a second and re read your post and see just how idiotic you sound.:thumbsup:
 
I really, really feel for the guy who lost his dog. I can't imagine what that was like to have to experience.

Two years ago one of my brothers brought a buddy along on our annual grouse weekend. We're going through the woods, my setter's on point and the guy sees the woodcock running on the ground and announces he sees it running and is going to shoot. I was screaming no at the top of my lungs and he didn't shoot. I yelled, not too pleasantly either, that we never, ever shoot at anything on the ground and need to be aware of where the dog is at all times. He was apologetic when we came out to the road and we talked about it. But I'm steering clear of him when we gather for that annual weekend now.

My dad shot one of my dogs years ago. He was hard of hearing, couldn't hear the dog. We were walking trails because he had sprained his ankle. Dog jumped out onto the trail 40 yards ahead just as a grouse flushed from next to us and flew right down the middle of the trail. Bird at 6-8' high right over the top of the dog. He shot despite my yelling not to shoot and caught the dog with two fliers. It's hard to imagine that much blood on a white dog with two, #8 shot hits. I never took Dad bird hunting with me again and I steered clear of him while deer hunting, too. Despite all the lectures to us about safety when we were growing up, he became unsafe in his later years.

As with some of you, I have friends who I no longer hunt with. One of them was my best man and current golf league partner. We do a lot of things together, but hunting isn't one of them because he's a greenhorn who will never get it. He didn't talk to me for a long time after I pulled him out of the woods and chewed his ass.

Life is too short to ruin friendships, but also too precious, whether dog or human, to risk it because of unsafe, stupid actions.

Please! Let's be safe out there!
 
Well said!
 
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mustistuff said:
no. I am saying that things happen and sometimes there is nothing you can do about it, carelessness is sometimes in one's own mind and nobody is perfect. this is really a pretty small issue, want a serious one, take cars, take cel phones, texting and driving, etc. sounds like you are either short on experience or think you have found your own pedestal.

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All I can say to that is Bull Sh**--shoot one of my dogs and find out how small of a issue it is--:mad:

Please tell me you just trying to keep stirred and not serious --
 
RR,
Sounds like you made some tough decisions and for all the right reasons.
Great post.
Can't imagine my dog being shot. Hope I never have to go thru that.
 
A ground swat??

What is a "ground swat"? I think I know, but I don't want to believe it! If it's hammering the ground in front of a pointing dog in hopes of hitting a bird/covy/whatever, never heard of it. If someone pulled that on me, I think I would have a purple rage stroke on the spot.
 
You all are right with your responses, there is no bird worth it. All of us who have dogs and have put the time into them to get their best. can feel for this poor guy. There is no excuse for this.....it sickens me and I am sure the one who pulled the trigger learned an expensive lesson that hopefully stays with him the rest of his life.
 
I know the pain of losing a dog on a hunting trip. My 3 year old lab chuckie was hit and killed by a car, outside the motel. I cried for days. Shooting low, is very dangerous, and that's why I am very careful about who I hunt with. I hunt alone, 95% of the time.
 
When I allow someone to hunt with me, I tell them that I have 3 rules.....
1. We will have plenty of opportunities to shoot birds today. Do Not shoot my Dog.
2. If you happen to shoot my dog, it will be in your best interest to shoot me.
3. Do not shoot my dog.
 
I hunted with a guy out in eastern mt, who is a great dude, but he does not own a dog, and he shoots low a lot. I've had to talk to him about it, because he doesn't realize it.
 
oldandnew said:
My experience is that these people become water fowlers, target shooters at the country club, or join in on the 30+ guns foray to the "lodge" annually to hunt pheasants. Sure thing is they don't own a dog, to much bother, or little Miss, won't have one! Some people are better to leave on the sidelines. Now if they dog along, with no shells, lugging water bottles, feed the dog before they feed themselves, clean the birds, drive the 5 hours to hunt, and back......now that's a guy/or gal to hang on too!
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Yeah I agree. I havnt trained my dog at all, don't have too, I hunt a lot, and she is good.The bushwa pay crowd, are not cool by me. I really have to work, and walk for birds. I can't afford to pay anybody a cent for hunting. Fuel, motels, smoke, food, it adds up, on a hunting trip.
 
Shooting anywhere around a dog, Is wrong, and dangerous, and grounds for not hunting with a guy. Another, is being cheap, and making the other guy pay for everything.Split the expenses, and it helps everybody.Also, it's best to get your own motel room, or have your own camper, unless you are really good , old friends.
 
Shooting anywhere around a dog, Is wrong, and dangerous, and grounds for not hunting with a guy. Another, is being cheap, and making the other guy pay for everything.Split the expenses, and it helps everybody.Also, it's best to get your own motel room, or have your own camper, unless you are really good , old friends.i talked to some boneheaded from Ohio one time , who claimed to have shot 60 birds, on a Montana hunt. These type people need to be turned in...
 
Ok- you usually don't have to train a lab to retrieve.It is their nature to retrieve. Hunting, in general, is training. You have to get your dog out there on birds. Hours in the field, is the most important thing for a dog.Ive never spent time training my dog.They all learned to hunt, by hunting.
 
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