Thanks for all the help, and the valuable insight as to how great of hunters you all are. I do not use choke tubes for pheasants, was actually asking for a friend who asked me. I use black cloud with the BC choke tubes for geese and he thought I would have some info for him, so I told him I would ask on here, and maybe someone out there has used them. I will let him know that he is a horrible hunter, shoots at birds way to far, and spends more than the acceptable amount of money on shells. haha. Seriously, thanks anyway.