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How many levels of stimulation do you really need I was looking at the trial tronics field 90 exp, it only has 6 m and 6 c, but with a mile range I could use it on my hounds also, is 6 enough, I have only used them for trash breaking in the past. I found one for $279
 
I have a Tritronics Flyway Special with similar features. I usually have the setting between 3 and 4 depending on the distance from my dog, the tightness of the collar, the intensity of what she is chasing after and the terrain for her to react to it. I guess it depends on those criteria for your dogs how many levels you need but I am happy with what I have. Sounds like a fair price and Tritronics products are top notch quality.
 
Red label 12 said:
How many levels of stimulation do you really need
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Depends on what your going to be using it for mainly. If you only need it for trash breaking then you only need a few. For training the reason some have up to 100 levels is because of the graduation from 1 level to the next is very subtle. This allows you to find just the right amount of stimulation to get the dog to respond (not too little, not too much).
 
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Sadiemae said:
I have a Tritronics Flyway Special with similar features. I usually have the setting between 3 and 4 depending on the distance from my dog, the tightness of the collar, the intensity of what she is chasing after and the terrain for her to react to it. I guess it depends on those criteria for your dogs how many levels you need but I am happy with what I have. Sounds like a fair price and Tritronics products are top notch quality.
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???? distance has nothing to do with the amount of stimulation the dog receives---if they are in range---they receive what is set --from five feet or at max distance--
 
david0311 said:
???? distance has nothing to do with the amount of stimulation the dog receives---if they are in range---they receive what is set --from five feet or at max distance--
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I was referring to the distance in regards to the intensity of what she is chasing after. My particular dog is a flusher and will chase a bird as far as it takes her. If she is getting too far out and doesn't respond to the lower nick, then a stronger nick is needed to get her attention to keep her from ending up on the other side of the county!
 
I have used the field 90 and the pro 100. The pro 100 has a better break of stimulation levels than the 90. Example my dog with the field 90 the level 1 setting was to high he jumped every time I used it. The pro 100 breaks that same level 1 down into 3 levels low med and high. I now use level 1 med most of the time. I hope this helps.

Greatlawn
 
I have three dogs and I've always used the Tri-Tronics Pro 100 (I've had three different versions of it now). I never turn the dial lower than 2 or higher than 4. Low, medium or high on those three settings will accomplish all I need on everything from an extremely tough Lab to a rather sensitive pointer.

To me, the "100 levels" thing is a joke. I asked someone from Dogtra about that via email once, and the answer I got was entirely insufficient. I don't even recall what the rationale was now.

I wasn't considering buying one – I'm more loyal to Tri-Tronics than I am to any company in any product category. The question was borne purely of curiosity, and that curiosity was not satisfied.
 
There's no mystery as to 100 stimulation levels. Actually now it's 127 on the newer 2500 series. Is it too many? Possibly, but then again what is too many as there are situations that may dictate the use of higher vs lower stim.

Simply put, if offers a much more gradual increase in stimulation then collars with a set few. You can fine tune just what it takes to get the proper response your looking for. Dogs have a multitude of temperaments, this allows you to just find the absolute minimum amount needed to get the job done. NO reason to use MORE stim than needed IMO.

Now... will your Tritronics suffice for a good majority of dogs... probably. But can it be set to the absolute least amount needed to get the job done? There's pro's and Cons to every brand out there. Find what brand works for you and stick with it.
 
I would look at stimulation levels on the various collars like this. Lets say we are comparing a collar with 10 levels to a collar with 100. 1=10, 2=20, 3=30, etc. All the collars with 100 levels do is give you a degree of variation between numbers. So 35 would be equal to 3.5 on a collar with ten levels.
 
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But can it be set to the absolute least amount needed to get the job done?
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Yes, it absolutely can. Levels 1 through 18 (low, medium and high on six different dial settings) on a Tri-Tronics Pro model go from nearly undetectable (even on a hairless human hand palm) to a box of raging hornets, with only slight gradations in between.

On every dog, there will be a level that causes no reaction whatsoever, and then one right above it where you'll see a head twitch or some other sign of recognition. This will vary from day to day and from one situation to the next on the same dog.

I've never been able to enforce a command on any of my dogs with anything lighter than a low 2, and I've never been UNABLE to stop a dog at full sprint dead in its tracks with a high 4. If I tried to break down each of those levels into five or six sub-levels, I'd have no time to train or hunt and I wouldn't be accomplishing anything to begin with. And besides, they'd be different again tomorrow.
 
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Yes, it absolutely can. Levels 1 through 18 (low, medium and high on six different dial settings) on a Tri-Tronics Pro model go from nearly undetectable (even on a hairless human hand palm) to a box of raging hornets, with only slight gradations in between.

On every dog, there will be a level that causes no reaction whatsoever, and then one right above it where you'll see a head twitch or some other sign of recognition. This will vary from day to day and from one situation to the next on the same dog.

I've never been able to enforce a command on any of my dogs with anything lighter than a low 2, and I've never been UNABLE to stop a dog at full sprint dead in its tracks with a high 4. If I tried to break down each of those levels into five or six sub-levels, I'd have no time to train or hunt and I wouldn't be accomplishing anything to begin with. And besides, they'd be different again tomorrow.
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Mine only has 8 levels total. #2 works perfect on JP but when he was a pup chasing jack rabbits 8 had no effect at all on him.:eek: He eventually learned he ccouldn't catch them and stopped chasing them on his own. Cotton tails are another story since he knows he can catch them.:D
 
ditchparrot19 said:
Yes, it absolutely can. Levels 1 through 18 (low, medium and high on six different dial settings) on a Tri-Tronics Pro model go from nearly undetectable (even on a hairless human hand palm) to a box of raging hornets, with only slight gradations in between.

On every dog, there will be a level that causes no reaction whatsoever, and then one right above it where you'll see a head twitch or some other sign of recognition. This will vary from day to day and from one situation to the next on the same dog.

I've never been able to enforce a command on any of my dogs with anything lighter than a low 2, and I've never been UNABLE to stop a dog at full sprint dead in its tracks with a high 4. If I tried to break down each of those levels into five or six sub-levels, I'd have no time to train or hunt and I wouldn't be accomplishing anything to begin with. And besides, they'd be different again tomorrow.
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Have you ever used a Dogtra with the Rheostat dial?

There's no breaking down anything. You simply adjust the dial till you get the response you need. For simply yard training this setting will most likely be the same used for that dog from day to day. If your breaking for steady to wing and or shot or from chasing you increase the stim via the dial till you get a response. There's no breaking down anything IMO.
 
As a follow-up. The only real downside to the Rheostat system is that it tends to be a 2 handed operation if you need to increase stimulation on the fly. This can often be somewhat cumbersome when your holding your gun in one hand or using one hand to control a launcher remote and the other to run the collar transmitter.
 
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