Disappointed in Kansas

kansasbrittany- you sound like the kind of fella I'd like to put a Britt or two down with and do some of this hard but rewarding following the dogs arround
 
Whining???? What whining? Didn't I state that I enjoyed the KS hunts more anyway? Who are you going to argue with next about something so petty? My apologies to the other board members for giving "miss-leading" information, though I honestly didn't realize that it was miss-leading. I shared my experience (albeit very limited) and that's it. If my experience is too limited to make such a broad statemment, then point that out and move on. No need in getting nasty (yet another internet tough guy among us). I'm sure there are places in those states that are difficult to limit in, but I've not seen it. I'm not going to make up a story that contradicts my experience to try and make friends with you or get your approval. Say whatever you want about my post, but from now on, if you wanna get rude, send me a pm. It was a regurgitation of personal experience and that's it.

I'll strive to be closer to perfect for you in the future Fenway.

Maybe I shouldn't have said whining and I apologize for that, but by saying it's a gimme in the Dakota's it implies they don't have to hunt as hard or skillfully as in KS. SD has tons of birds but access is hard without paying and the walk in areas are well used, ND only has SD like bird numbers in the SW and again very hard to get on if you don't want to pay, I can attest to that I have hunted there and the private access is almost none without paying, and the PLOTS is few and well used. I have hunted in the eastern part of the state, and there are birds but nothing like SD you can certainly limit but it's far from a gimme. I really didn't think I was being an internet tough guy I certainly wasn't trying to give that vibe. That said I hope to go out to western ND later in the week, weather permitting, and in this case I hope it's a gimme.










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I've actually had the opportunity to hunt with KB and it was a hoot! We saw some birds, killed some birds and watched alot of birds fly off. Next time we go I'm stringing a net up across the field so they just fly into it and make it a real gimme hunt.....:laugh:
 
Kio,

I thought the net thing was a set-up for you to bust my "junk" about my shooting skills. Hadn't given your kindness enough credit I suppose:D
 
I am with you Kiotehntr a net may be a good thing to have when chasing birds with KB:) I have really enjoyed my hunts with KB and the ribbing in between birds is usually pretty comical. Hopefully very soon I will get to do it again.
 
I have yet to hunt with KB but hopefully soon it will come together I just hope if he runs out of shells he remembers how to use a bat to knock em down
 
GC don't make the mistake I made and challenge KB to a shooting match because no matter the score you will loose:) He seems to find a way to rally in the bottom of the 9th you just never know what tricks he has up his sleeve or quail for that matter:D
 
Kio,

I thought the net thing was a set-up for you to bust my "junk" about my shooting skills. Hadn't given your kindness enough credit I suppose:D

Well shucks KB....:D I hadn't even begun to talk about our shooting skills yet though! Don't think that I will either.....:D:D
 
huntin4fun he also doesnt know the tricks i have like the reloaded no led shell i let everyone try :cheers:
 
Dang GCB I think you put a couple boxes of those in my vest opening weekend. Thought we never met. Maybe you paid off my partners to let you have my vest 1 evening to switch shells, like maybe the night before season opener?
 
Hunted WIHA Monday - Wed of last week in both the Atwood and Hill City areas, and, did very poorly.

Hunted every legal minute of all 3 days, with a great dog, and, shot 2 roosters and 1 quail (whiffed on 1 other rooster).

Only saw maybe an add'l 4-5 roosters that flushed out of range, and, probably about 20 hens in 3 days.
 
Here are some personal reflections on Kansas hunting.
Live in Colorado, bird hunt in Kansas several times a season for almost 30 years now.
I have payed my dues to find places to hunt in Kansas. I'm buying a non resident license each year, and play by the rules.
I leave cash all over out there in restaurants, motels, gas stations and campgrounds.
I am welcomed each year by private landowners to hunt their property, and I make sure to be appreciative and respectful.
I don't pay to hunt, but I do show my appreciation with small gifts like beverages, fruit and cheese baskets, pocket knives, work gloves and baked goods. I have had the good fortune to be invited to hunt many great private areas for many years now.
Many of the farmer friends I've made in Kansas treat me like family... I've been to weddings, birthday parties and funerals.
I don't agree that you can't get permission to hunt private land in Kansas, each year I manage to gain access to some great new spots just for askin'...it's kind of like asking a pretty girl for a date...all she can say is no. If you are considerate and work at it a bit, you might be surprised at the good fortune you'll have just for askin'.
I have been to PF events in Kansas and dropped good amounts of treasure to support habitat improvement efforts.
In short, I try to give something back to the place that I love...I'm not just there to take.
Are all non resident hunters like me? Probably not, but I'll bet most are paying their dues and trying to be lawful, respectful hunters.
Many of these non residents drove hundreds of miles just to spend a few days in the fields of Kansas.
It's sad to say that upland hunting opportunities in so many other states have serously waned over the years...look at Iowa.
I imagine a lot of the revenue from non resident license sales is used by KDWP to lease the WIHA areas from private landowners...not sure how many WIHA areas would be out there without that revenue...public hunting areas that can be used and enjoyed by all are at a premium nowdays...it's a wonderful thing that Kansas has done to keep our sport alive in a time when a smaller and smaller percentage of the population in America hunts.
So it's no wonder Kansas is so popular...lots of WIHA to hunt, friendly people for the most part, and if you hunt hard and pay your dues, you can scratch down a few birds...you might just hit the motherload if you're in the right place at the right time.
In Kansas, I've had to work for my birds, some years the birds are plentiful, others not so much. Things change from one year to the next, and one day to the next, and the birds are where you find them.
I've had weeks in Kansas when I bagged a limit one day, and got skunked for the next couple of days...that's hunting...you can't expect to get a limit or even a bird each day. If that's your goal, go to a preserve and hunt pen raised birds, it's probably cheaper in the long run.
I love Kansas upland hunting with my heart and soul....love the country, the people, the wildlife and especially the dog work associated with the sport.
I live to hunt Kansas every season...it holds a special place in my heart.
I'm leaving tomorrow for a week of hunting in Kansas, my third trip out so far, can't wait to get there!

Upland Hunter
 
@UplandHunter - Now THAT'S what it's all about & summed up in about as nice a nutshell as I have ever seen!!! :thumbsup: :10sign: :cheers:
 
I have yet to hunt with KB but hopefully soon it will come together I just hope if he runs out of shells he remembers how to use a bat to knock em down

I missed the opener due to work a couple years ago, but got a call mid-morning to have it rubbed in my face.

Bro in law and his buddy winged one, it didn't have any rudder or lift left and ended up headed for my dad. He kept waiting for it to clear them to shoot, it never did get out of their line, headed right at him. He used the buttstock of his Beretta 0/U to knock it down, kind of like a baseball player would lay down a bunt.
 
good post uplandhunter... as for finding birds in wiha right now.. yes its gunna be tough. birds are smarts. alot of residents and nonresident have been hunting wiha hard all years, birds get hunted hard and they grow smarter everyday, they will find different cover to stay in till it gets cold, then most birds will be forced to go back to wiha, where better is most places. its just a fact. u can still find birds in wiha, but it will tough. i for one like the challenge, even tho i have private land to hunt around the state, i still like going out and trying to hunt wiha. just my thoughts, like um or not, theres truth into what i have said, im not the smartest guy in the world, but i do realize how smart these birds can get, and how difficult it can be to find them. there are there, sometimes you just have to chance you methods of hunting them to be sucessful, and im just really learning that.

just my .02 cents,
kscountryboy
 
upland hunter is a classy guy, there is truth in everything he says...follow his lead and build your references, in a couple years you can have what he has earned and worked for....as for wiha, the previous poster is correct, with nice weather birds are holding in marginal cover where no one is messin' with them.......first cold and snow to hit, back to the walk in and hunting will return...that should be sometime during the second week of Dec. i hope......
 
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