henhenROOSTER!!!
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Before I spill the beans, please notice the specific order in my title - it is prioritized that way for a reason - if more of us hunters as a whole would start GENUINELY coming across a little more as being concerned for someone else over ourselves for a change, it would do wonders for our image & in the long run help provide better access to more properties to hunt...
I would like to suggest that preferably the CDOW or perhaps if not then Pheasants Forever consider designing & providing some sort of standardized official LANDOWNER/HUNTER "written permission" agreement form, with a copy to be signed & kept by both parties...When I lived & hunted in New Mexico for nearly a decade quite a few years back, their Game & Fish Dept. provided hunters with as many copies as we wanted of an official "written permission" double-postcard, perforated in the middle - one "written permission" half to be kept by the hunter & the other half containing the hunters personal info (name, address, phone number, vehicle license number, signature, ect.) to be kept by the landowner...The information on these forms was very detailed & specific, such as length/dates of permission granted (one time access or all season long), species allowed, acknowledgement of waiver by hunter, ect...
It was a great tool that had many advantages...First off it carried the official logo and game violation phone number of the NM Game Dept & was much more precise and convenient than random off-the-cuff scribbling on a handwritten piece of paper...Second it was a two-sided agreement that also required identifying information & a commitment signature from the hunter in addition to the landowner's "written permission" signature (i.e.--not a one-way street)...When officially produced & distributed to hunters by the state game or wildlife department with a ready contact number for violations or emergencies it also helps to give more of an air of credibility & true understanding/sympathy toward landowners, which bodes well both for the future of hunting and their own agency...
I cannot begin to tell you how far something like this would actually go toward helping ease the minds of cautious/suspicious landowners, who rightly come first in line because without them there would be no places or pheasants for us to hunt...It would also give them the added security of knowing exactly who to come looking for if anything stupid is done while on their property...And in my experience it greatly reduces their hassle in keeping up with who all is on their property at any given time & actually helps them to remember/get to know you & I...It also gives the landowner an instant, no-hassle tracking record to hand-off to the CDOW if necessary...Need I say that any landowner would be much more likely to give permission & sign something that includes his own favor like this, as opposed to the current basically one-sided agreement/signature that we hunters often ask for!!! :thumbsup:
I am going to call the NM Game Dept. this week and ask if they still have any copies of those nifty little "written permission" agreements that they came up with & then call/write the CDOW to see if they might consider coming up with something similar (even for a modest wildlife or department fundraiser fee--which I for one would gladly pay)...If they are not interested, then I am going to draft up something quality at least for my own personal use...This very handy tool/concept was by far the best I have ever seen in adequately covering all of the issues surrounding required "written permission" to hunt...Heck, if I was a farmer I wouldn't sign anything that didn't include & protect me in the deal!!!
I would like to suggest that preferably the CDOW or perhaps if not then Pheasants Forever consider designing & providing some sort of standardized official LANDOWNER/HUNTER "written permission" agreement form, with a copy to be signed & kept by both parties...When I lived & hunted in New Mexico for nearly a decade quite a few years back, their Game & Fish Dept. provided hunters with as many copies as we wanted of an official "written permission" double-postcard, perforated in the middle - one "written permission" half to be kept by the hunter & the other half containing the hunters personal info (name, address, phone number, vehicle license number, signature, ect.) to be kept by the landowner...The information on these forms was very detailed & specific, such as length/dates of permission granted (one time access or all season long), species allowed, acknowledgement of waiver by hunter, ect...
It was a great tool that had many advantages...First off it carried the official logo and game violation phone number of the NM Game Dept & was much more precise and convenient than random off-the-cuff scribbling on a handwritten piece of paper...Second it was a two-sided agreement that also required identifying information & a commitment signature from the hunter in addition to the landowner's "written permission" signature (i.e.--not a one-way street)...When officially produced & distributed to hunters by the state game or wildlife department with a ready contact number for violations or emergencies it also helps to give more of an air of credibility & true understanding/sympathy toward landowners, which bodes well both for the future of hunting and their own agency...
I cannot begin to tell you how far something like this would actually go toward helping ease the minds of cautious/suspicious landowners, who rightly come first in line because without them there would be no places or pheasants for us to hunt...It would also give them the added security of knowing exactly who to come looking for if anything stupid is done while on their property...And in my experience it greatly reduces their hassle in keeping up with who all is on their property at any given time & actually helps them to remember/get to know you & I...It also gives the landowner an instant, no-hassle tracking record to hand-off to the CDOW if necessary...Need I say that any landowner would be much more likely to give permission & sign something that includes his own favor like this, as opposed to the current basically one-sided agreement/signature that we hunters often ask for!!! :thumbsup:
I am going to call the NM Game Dept. this week and ask if they still have any copies of those nifty little "written permission" agreements that they came up with & then call/write the CDOW to see if they might consider coming up with something similar (even for a modest wildlife or department fundraiser fee--which I for one would gladly pay)...If they are not interested, then I am going to draft up something quality at least for my own personal use...This very handy tool/concept was by far the best I have ever seen in adequately covering all of the issues surrounding required "written permission" to hunt...Heck, if I was a farmer I wouldn't sign anything that didn't include & protect me in the deal!!!
