A few Pheasants from around the world

Preston1 said:
Nick, you are not confusing anybody. Keep up the great work. No other big pheasant organization ( I won't name any names) gives out any great photos or genetic information on the True Pheasant subspecies or background information on the ringneck subspecies that make up our wild pheasant population like you do.

These wild pheasants are an important part of the north American hunting culture and heritage and they came here from other parts of this world, we need to be informed. No one else that I know of can find such stunning real wild photos of authentic wild True Pheasants in their native land, like you can, don't stop.
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Hey there Preston. I wanted to delete my post (#57) after I read it and I was getting confused. lol No, it really wasn't that bad, just too much "grey rump", White-wing"/"red rump" talk within it to keep things straight.

P.S.--notice the slight red showing up in the rump of Wisturk's first photo (the rooster to the right):)

Nick
 
Preston1 said:
These pheasants on the video are probably an admixture of various subspecies of Chinese pheasants, I will explain.

Those wild pheasant from Montana can easily be 100 generations (100 years) of wild genes. Pheasants were first released in Montana in 1909. Back then all of the subspecies were simple referred to as Chinese Ring-Necked pheasants or simple as ringneck pheasants. But we now know that pheasant stock used 100 years ago out west and in the northern plains were made up of many subspecies, the Chinese ringneck, the Manchurian ringneck, the Mongolian ringneck (Kirghiz) the Korean ringneck and even a few Strauchi (Sichuan) pheasants.

The White-Winged pheasant (P. c. Bianchi) were not imported into America until the 1960's.

This is not always true, but the fact that the hen on the video has green eyes is a sign of many many generations of living in the real wild world, getting away from predators.

Most commercially available adult pen raised hen pheasants have dark eyes, a sign of many many generations of easy going pen life.
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I was wondering if anyone would notice the hen's eyes...you didn't disappoint!
 
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UplandLevi said:
The pheasant killed in this video looks a little dark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNhnv9hW0a4
Is it's darker coloration related to the subspecies that it is? Or no?
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Korean language caption is seen at the bottom of that video. So that is a Korean ringneck pheasant. The korean ringneck pheasants are almost identical in appearance to the Chinese ringneck pheasant.

That pheasant in that video appears darker because of poor lighting or cloudiness or it may be late in the evening. Other Korean pheasant hunting videos in that section shows brighter and clearer pictures of the ringneck pheasants.

The Japanese Green pheasant rooster (True Pheasant) is a natural sub specie with a natural darker coloration.

On the other hand, the Melanistic Mutant pheasant has various darker color phases but those changes in the mutant pheasant color comes from years and years of pen raised inbreeding of other ringneck pheasants. These mutant pheasants were not seen in the real wild natural pheasant world 150 years ago. The Melanistic Mutant pheasant first showed up in Norfork England pen raised stock in the 1880's and by 1930 was seen in North American pen raised stock.
 
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Here's some nice photos of Formosan pheasants in flight (HongKong);

http://www.birdnet.cn/thread-797862-1-1.html


This is a Torquatus "Chinese" rooster--scroll down to photo #11. There's a great photo of him cackling.;)

http://www.birdnet.cn/thread-799486-1-1.html


Great shots of two Torquatus "Chinese" roosters taking it to the streets:D.

http://www.birdnet.cn/thread-797102-1-1.html


I believe this rooster is a Northern versicolor (Japan). (Preston--Thanks for the correction--updated 6-23-14!)

http://www.birdnet.cn/thread-778251-1-1.html



Some nice Pallasi "Manchurian" roosters;

http://www.birdnet.cn/thread-773281-1-1.html
 
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Great photos 1pheas4. I will start off with your second post first link. The ringneck rooster in the snow with the hen and yellow eyes is probably a Korean ringneck pheasant.

According to Jean Delacour in southern Manchuria and the northern part of Korean between lat. 37 N. and 40 N. (lat. 40 N. cold country in winter) the populations of both the Manchurian ringneck (P. c. Pallasi) and the Korean ringneck (P. c. Karpowi) merges or another words the two ringneck subspecies cross or merge, thats been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years. Ringneck subspecies hens are almost identical in appearance.

On that same post the ringneck rooster on the second link in the wheat field could be a Korean ringneck of regular Chinese ringneck (P. c. Torquatus). Remember these ringneck subspecies are unstable there are intermediary zone all over China where various ringneck subspecies overlap. Our Eastern and Rio Grande wild turkeys do the same thing.

Our wild ringneck pheasant populations here in North America are made up of all of these ringneck Subspecies.

Like I said before i wish we could get some fresh authentic wild (genes) added to our commercial brood stock.

On the first post the versicolor Japanese Green pheasant is the northern sub-specie the robustipes they have the bronzy back and bluish grey rump.

One other point, those Formosan ringneck pheasants live in a warm humid climate similar of south Florida. They clearly demonstrates that ringneck pheasants can live and reproduce in warm to hot climates.
 
Preston thanks for clearing things up with a few of those links. Now that you've said something about the link containing Torquatus I can see it. For some reason those birds looked darker than they should be for Torquatus. I put the correct labeling with the Versicolor link too.:)

Here's some more links with wild Strauchi;

Rooster http://www.birdnet.cn/thread-800200-1-1.html


Hen http://www.birdnet.cn/thread-789595-1-1.html


A sharp Strauchi rooster w/hens

http://www.birdnet.cn/thread-779082-1-1.html


What a beautiful bird! He has some nice spurs on him too!

http://www.birdnet.cn/thread-767000-1-1.html
 
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Friend of mine had a Lady Amherst pheasant wander on to his property from a nearby bird ranch. It's now a nice mount. :D
 
One sure thing that is needed to ensure wild pheasant survival in the wild (predator infested) wild world is a wary and alert wild pheasant.

If we can't get new authentic wild and wary/alert pheasant genes from abroad. The Afghan Whitewing Pheasant (also called White-Winged Pheasant or Bianchi Pheasant) is a commercially available option. The White-Winged pen raised pheasant will have a higher survival rate, in the wild, than the tame non alert non wary pen raised pheasants.

Bill MacFarlane, put this interesting link out four days ago:

http://www.gamebirdexpert.com/index.php/the-afghan-whitewing-pheasant/
 
As always thanks for the photo's! His rump doesn't have the blue-green color of the birds we have here.
 
FLDBRED said:
As always thanks for the photo's! His rump doesn't have the blue-green color of the birds we have here.
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My pleasure Fldbred;).

Yes, their birds still show the "red-rump" blood-lines. Our birds (in the lower 48) have red-rump blood-lines too, but have cross bred with so many other blood-lines that they seldom show reddish color anymore.

Though Wiskturkeyhunter posted a photo of some wild rooster he shot in Wisconsin where they still showed some reddish color in their rumps.:)
 
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