Where have all the Quail gone? - SE KS

Do those boots come in 3 year old boy size? My son was out at Papa's farm last week and when he Papa came walking up on the yard, my boy was so excited he ran out of the house without shoes on. He made it about 50 yards and was crying like you wouldn't believe. We've been pulling stickers out of his feet almost nightly for the past week and he's not real happy about it.
 
Do those boots come in 3 year old boy size? My son was out at Papa's farm last week and when he Papa came walking up on the yard, my boy was so excited he ran out of the house without shoes on. He made it about 50 yards and was crying like you wouldn't believe. We've been pulling stickers out of his feet almost nightly for the past week and he's not real happy about it.

oh no, that's a bum deal for the lil' man:( Isn't there something you could soak his feet in to get those to loosen up maybe? How about having him put his foot on a wirehair's back next time after the incident? Mine is a sand burr/cockle burr magnet:p All BS aside, I sure hope you can get 'em all out and get that boy some relief.
 
Id take you up on that bet, however the place I used to hunt on 4-5 years ago was shut down to hunting. I could easily find 4 covies of 30-50 birds a day, and had a total of 8 covies mapped out with many more to be found. But it was also appx 10k contiguous acres along the dry Arkansas river. Conservative grazing among other things was also practiced on the land and it was bordered by some great agriculture (irrigated corn and alfafa mainly). Was a great place, not sure that I will find one like it again.


What town are you closest too? Again you may need to drive an hour or an hour and a half to get into good quail country (by KS standards that is) Its western KS we're talking about. An hour drive is nothing. Im not giving away all the secrets online.

pm sent- October would be good
 
Those d@#$% burrs. They take weeks sometimes to come out on their own, sometimes callous over and just stay irritating all the time. I have had luck with an old time medication called PRID salve. Made out of pine tar, mineral spirits, and bees wax originally, dab on, cover with a band aid, it draws out the thorn overnight, comes out with the band aid usually. It's sold in an orange tin. Cheap, Antiseptic and Works on blackberries as well! Good luck.
 
I think the sand burrs are evidence of ecosystem abuse as well. The only place you find them in profusion is in disturbed ground, along road edges, waterholes trampled down by livestock, blow outs, and the like. They are the first pioneering plant in those areas, trying to hold the soil. In the sanhills of Nebraska, once your into the hills, away from concentrations of cattle and man's manipulations, the burrs are a non issue. Hunted there for years with dogs, never owned a boot yet, but I try to avoid the light brown or pale green carpets when I see em! Sounds like I'd be hard pressed to miss them in SW Kansas!
 
Do those boots come in 3 year old boy size? My son was out at Papa's farm last week and when he Papa came walking up on the yard, my boy was so excited he ran out of the house without shoes on. He made it about 50 yards and was crying like you wouldn't believe. We've been pulling stickers out of his feet almost nightly for the past week and he's not real happy about it.

LCS Cordura Burr Boots- 4 sizes- set of 4 for $19.95
the picture of these on the site doesn't look so good
my last order said
Dog Boots nylon-Scott- medium size works on my Britts-
 
Sounds like I'd be hard pressed to miss them in SW Kansas!

Yes, that is very much the case:mad: My best quail spot is plum full of 'em. I'd avoided that spot for years, though I knew the birds were in there b/c I'd catch 'em in the feed and it's about the only surrounding cover. Last season I booted my dogs for the first time and had a good time. Separating the duct tape from the dogs' fur was a PITA! I'll continue to modify my approach to boot making using the suggestions/pictures on this site.

On a side note, this thread has departed from the original topic of quail in SE KS. With any luck we'll see this thread rise back to the top during season when someone finds 10 coveys in one day somewhere in SE KS.
 
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agree kansasbrittany-

I have a farmer freind a bit north of Burlingame- him and his brother owned, farmed, and ran cattle on a total of 4 square miles- a little split up- but on any given day I could find 11 coveys if turning the Britt's losse at sunup and going till sundown- but it was some real grusesome days we put in- and we never shot more than 4 birds out of any covey rise- and never hunted the split up coveys very hard- could have wiped out every bird

I need to go back there- it's been 7 years
 
agree kansasbrittany-

I have a farmer freind a bit north of Burlingame- him and his brother owned, farmed, and ran cattle on a total of 4 square miles- a little split up- but on any given day I could find 11 coveys if turning the Britt's losse at sunup and going till sundown- but it was some real grusesome days we put in- and we never shot more than 4 birds out of any covey rise- and never hunted the split up coveys very hard- could have wiped out every bird

I need to go back there- it's been 7 years

If you're talking Burlingame, KS, you'd better let me buy you a cup of coffee or something while you're in the neighborhood. I don't live too far from there.
 
If you're talking Burlingame, KS, you'd better let me buy you a cup of coffee or something while you're in the neighborhood. I don't live too far from there.

I am- and should go back and visit- they were good people-
I will let you know when me and the Britt's are going to be over there- December is what I'm figuring on
30 years of the best quail hunting anyone could ask for-

I would lay a little wager you know the queenies
 
On a side note, this thread has departed from the original topic of quail in SE KS. With any luck we'll see this thread rise back to the top during season when someone finds 10 coveys in one day somewhere in SE KS.

Yeah, between this and "drought ends at the ponderosa", maybe somebody should click on "start new thread"...:thumbsup:
 
Yeah, between this and "drought ends at the ponderosa", maybe somebody should click on "start new thread"...:thumbsup:

Those two threads have gotten quite a bit of attention. Wish on the drought thread, the drought would actually end and then lock that thread.

Back to the quail in the SE. There was an incident that occurred when I was young, I am thinking the late 50's or early 60's where a man from Chicago and his group harvested quite a few birds of several species in SE Kansas, and earned him the nickname, "Dovey". Some on here might remember.:) Dovey had a connection with the quaint little town of Frontenac.
 
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Those two threads have gotten quite a bit of attention. QUOTE]

Yes, they have. Neither of us is frustrated w/ the original post of the thread. We were just making light of how far each of those threads had made it from the original topic. I'm terrible about highjacking threads when I should just start a new one....I guess I'm like a fat guy making fun of fat people here:rolleyes::D:confused:
 
Those two threads have gotten quite a bit of attention. Wish on the drought thread, the drought would actually end and then lock that thread.

Back to the quail in the SE. There was an incident that occurred when I was young, I am thinking the late 50's or early 60's where a man from Chicago and his group harvested quite a few birds of several species in SE Kansas, and earned him the nickname, "Dovey". Some on here might remember.:) Dovey had a connection with the quaint little town of Frontenac.

I think that was in 1959/60.Involved several hundred doves in the trunk of a car,I think.
Actually,one of my brothers was one of the shooters,got free shells,shot a limit of birds,dump them off,get more shells,shoot a limit of birds,and on and on.Back in those days,it was nothing to see a wheat stubble field have 10,000 bird in it.Then,ther would be only one or two fields that had the right mix for doves to feed in,know there might be 8-10 in a 10 mile radius,really breaks them up..
 
I think that was in 1959/60.Involved several hundred doves in the trunk of a car,I think.
Actually,one of my brothers was one of the shooters,got free shells,shot a limit of birds,dump them off,get more shells,shoot a limit of birds,and on and on.Back in those days,it was nothing to see a wheat stubble field have 10,000 bird in it.Then,ther would be only one or two fields that had the right mix for doves to feed in,know there might be 8-10 in a 10 mile radius,really breaks them up..

I vaguely remember the incident being on the news and my older brother talking about it, then years later I end up living in Frontenac and get to hear about it again.

Bet your brother had quite a story about it.;)
 
Yes, what KB said. :D

I think the mystery of where the quail went was pretty much solved 80 posts ago... :laugh:

I'm glad people are posting though. It's fun to talk about bird hunting every day.
 
Joey "Doves" Iuppa, may not have spelled it right. Shot doves all summer. Wanted by the Feds for racketeering and being an enforcer for the mob in Chicago. As usual the Feds couldn't prove a case on the primary charges and pursued the case on "state" charges, (before the Lacy Act), Iuppa spent a few years as a guest of the State of Kansas. The doves by the way were kept by the thousands in Palluca's supermarket freezer. When asked Ray Palluca responded that he thought they were crows!!!! Story the source much mirth when I was a kid. No one else was ever charged. And now you know the rest of the story.
 
Joey "Doves" Iuppa, may not have spelled it right. Shot doves all summer. Wanted by the Feds for racketeering and being an enforcer for the mob in Chicago. As usual the Feds couldn't prove a case on the primary charges and pursued the case on "state" charges, (before the Lacy Act), Iuppa spent a few years as a guest of the State of Kansas. The doves by the way were kept by the thousands in Palluca's supermarket freezer. When asked Ray Palluca responded that he thought they were crows!!!! Story the source much mirth when I was a kid. No one else was ever charged. And now you know the rest of the story.

Pretty much the way I heard it. I heard that Aiuppa had a restaurant in Chicago that he served the dove and Palluca & Sons was processing them for him. True?

One of my employees, a monster of a man(probably 6-7 & 300), told me of him getting feisty with Palluca in his store and didn't know Aiuppa and his chauffeur/body guard was there and turned around to be staring at the chest of a guy like Jaws in James Bond. He said he excused himself and left.

Here is a little read-

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Aiuppa
 
True as near as I know. Iauppa hunted out of a chaffuered cadillac eldorado which was well known around Crawford County. Had connections there from prohibition, when Frontenac was a bootleggers haven, every back yard in town had a pig, to eat the mash, so I'm told!
 
True as near as I know. Iauppa hunted out of a chaffuered cadillac eldorado which was well known around Crawford County. Had connections there from prohibition, when Frontenac was a bootleggers haven, every back yard in town had a pig, to eat the mash, so I'm told!

The story was told to me that you could get a drink at the front door of every place in Frontenac, except one, the Frontenac Methodist Church. They preferred you use the back door.

Back to the SE Kansas quail. I understood Aiuppa shot a few of those also.
 
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