Wake Up Call

[huntsem]

Wake Up Call

"...If we had tried to devise a federally supported plan to wreck our wildlife habitat, ruin our wetlands, and empty the Treasury, we couldn’t have done it better.

What we are witnessing is a trifecta of disastrous effects. The crop insurance, the ethanol mandate, and the record global commodity prices driven by the hunger of 7 billion human beings have resulted in a frenzy of plowing, draining, and planting of corn and other crops, leaving little room for wildlife or birds, and few buffers to protect water quality from pesticide and fertilizer-saturated runoff. We’ve lost 25 million acres of grass and wetlands in the past 25 years--the greatest conversion since the decades leading up to the Dust Bowl. The pace is astounding- we’ve lost more wetlands and grasslands in the past four years than we did in the previous 40. South Dakota, the pheasant kingdom, reports 500,000 acres converted from grass to crops since 2007. North Dakota reports a million since then. Although the conversion is most extreme in what is known as the Western Corn Belt- the Dakotas, Minnesota, Nebraska, and Iowa - demand for wheat from Asian markets is causing Montana farmers to convert conservation lands and grasslands to crops, too...."

A Perfect Storm of Wildlife Habitat Loss—and How to Stop It
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs...t-storm-wildlife-habitat-loss—and-how-stop-it


Life After CRP
gf.nd.gov/gnf/private-lands/docs/life-after-crp.pdf

http://fwp.mt.gov/fishAndWildlife/habitat/wildlife/programs/uplandgamebird/default.html


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[birddog456]

Be interesting to find out who conceived the idea of crop insurance, the lobbyists behind it, and why our legislature approved it. Just more monies handed out at our expense, when will the bleeding stop? I have all the respect in the world for the family farmer, no sympathy for the corporate farmer (or should I say farming operations?). Seems to me to be a class struggle, the rich trying to eliminate the middle class.
So to all the rich land grabbing bastards, my insignificate 80 will remain crp as long as I own it. Only regret was I didn't buy more.

 

[oldandnew]

Be interesting to find out who conceived the idea of crop insurance, the lobbyists behind it, and why our legislature approved it. Just more monies handed out at our expense, when will the bleeding stop? I have all the respect in the world for the family farmer, no sympathy for the corporate farmer (or should I say farming operations?). Seems to me to be a class struggle, the rich trying to eliminate the middle class.
So to all the rich land grabbing bastards, my insignificate 80 will remain crp as long as I own it. Only regret was I didn't buy more.

Hard to buy more now! Eastern Kansas dry-ground, past the traditional corn line was $5500.00 per acre on a 160@ last fall. My best friend refused to buy it in 1978 for $200.00 per acre, with a 100% loan from farm credit. I didn't buy the best two bird hunting 160@'s for $250.00 in Jewell County, at the same time. I'm sick about it. Wonder if I will live long enough to see it reverse, last two times it reversed fast! This time probably not to $200.00 acre, but I would not be surprised to see it in the $700-$1500 range. Global competition and $1.88 corn will tell the story.

 

[birddog456]

but I would not be surprised to see it in the $700-$1500 range. Global competition and $1.88 corn will tell the story.

Sure be nice to see those numbers again. I'd borrow till I almost bled to death to grab all I could.

 

[UGUIDE]

Hard to buy more now! Eastern Kansas dry-ground, past the traditional corn line was $5500.00 per acre on a 160@ last fall. My best friend refused to buy it in 1978 for $200.00 per acre, with a 100% loan from farm credit. I didn't buy the best two bird hunting 160@'s for $250.00 in Jewell County, at the same time. I'm sick about it. Wonder if I will live long enough to see it reverse, last two times it reversed fast! This time probably not to $200.00 acre, but I would not be surprised to see it in the $700-$1500 range. Global competition and $1.88 corn will tell the story.

Can't ya hear it now...10 years form now we'll be sayin "Dang! Should have bought that ground for $5500 when I had the chance."

 

[birddog456]

Hard to buy more now! Eastern Kansas dry-ground, past the traditional corn line was $5500.00 per acre on a 160@ last fall. My best friend refused to buy it in 1978 for $200.00 per acre, with a 100% loan from farm credit. I didn't buy the best two bird hunting 160@'s for $250.00 in Jewell County, at the same time. I'm sick about it. Wonder if I will live long enough to see it reverse, last two times it reversed fast! This time probably not to $200.00 acre, but I would not be surprised to see it in the $700-$1500 range. Global competition and $1.88 corn will tell the story.

Jewell county sounds familiar...my first out of state pheasnt hunting excursion was to Mankato in '95. If the same, see post about "complaints of state hunters" on main forum:thumbsup: Lot of nice people, lot of nice ground

 

[gobucks]

its funny to see who some of the donors are for the local pheasants forever banquet. Was looking at the list the other day and it listed a family outfit that is far from your small family farm. This big ag operation is a big reason why there are little to no birds in Ohio. They have removes every inch of cover they can.

 

[M. R. Byrd]

This time probably not to $200.00 acre, but I would not be surprised to see it in the $700-$1500 range. Global competition and $1.88 corn will tell the story.

$1.88 corn should drop the land prices. I have been looking for land in Jefferson, Leavenworth or Atchison Counties and it is high.

 

[mnmthunting]

Corn won't have to drop to $1.80. Why? the cost of production is more then $5.00 per bushel average.
Look for a bumper US corn crop in 013. With decent Spring moisture in most of the corn belt and the most corn acres since 1936 at 163 million acres.
USDA is projecting a 14.530 Billion Bushel US corn crop. Up from 10.780 BB last year. And a carryover of 2.7 BB, that's way up from the current carryover of just 632 million bushel.

So, the projection is $4.80 per bushel average for the new crop.
Those producers that have "overspent" are going to be in trouble, those that manage well will be fine.

 

[1pheas4]

Corn won't have to drop to $1.80. Why? the cost of production is more then $5.00 per bushel average.
Look for a bumper US corn crop in 013. With decent Spring moisture in most of the corn belt and the most corn acres since 1936 at 163 million acres.
USDA is projecting a 14.530 Billion Bushel US corn crop. Up from 10.780 BB last year. And a carryover of 2.7 BB, that's way up from the current carryover of just 632 million bushel.

So, the projection is $4.80 per bushel average for the new crop.
Those producers that have "overspent" are going to be in trouble, those that manage well will be fine.

To top it off, it's not just the U.S. producing big grain any-longer. Ukraine and South America are in on the grain game too. It's a matter of time before all the stars aline, and all three produce a big crop. When God only knows.

Part of me feels bad for what will come, but I suppose we're doing it to ourselves. It's like a feeding frenzy over who can put the most land into production.

 

[birddog456]

I blame it on John Deere and all the implement manufacturers, if they didn't make such huge tractors, plows, and combines, farmers wouldn't have to farm ten thousand acres and rip out all the fencelines to make them feasable.

 

[1pheas4]

I blame it on John Deere and all the implement manufacturers, if they didn't make such huge tractors, plows, and combines, farmers wouldn't have to farm ten thousand acres and rip out all the fencelines to make them feasable.

Yeah, that can't help any. But then again, look at the dust bowl days. We did the same thing then too. Nothing but an ocean of grain. We're in the process of coming full circle I suppose.

 

[jmac]

Yeah, that can't help any. But then again, look at the dust bowl days. We did the same thing then too. Nothing but an ocean of grain. We're in the process of coming full circle I suppose.

Yup,

People that don't study history are bound to repeat it.

 

[onpoint]

Do you mean equipment like this?

 

[onpoint]

Can't ya hear it now...10 years form now we'll be sayin "Dang! Should have bought that ground for $5500 when I had the chance."

Chris, people in the housing market never thought the good times would end too. They lost their life savings and then some. Trust me, this boom in commodities will correct itself sooner or later. The ones that are keeping a cool head and playing it safe will survive. The ones that rolled the dice and bought exceedingly over priced land, extended themselves on new giant equipment. Will learn a expensive lesson. Nothing is forever.