Ted Nugent on Game Regulations

Agree with him on hunting blue laws, but from his actions and game law convictions, he'd say baiting game of all kinds and claiming it as sporting should also be allowed. Somewhere Fred Bear is wagging his finger at you, Ted.
 
Lots of waterfowl guys get nabbed for shooting over flooded fields that were baited by an outfitter. You can't tell from looking, and likely the hunters had no knowledge, but the law requires you to know, and guilt is based upon the appearance of guilt, i.e.you were there, you were shooting, therefore you are guilty, whether you atually participated in the baiting or not. I believe it is true,or at least used to be that, there was a 10 day withdrawal period, after which the field was not considered to be baited. what! On the other hand you could plant a crop, leave it stand, flood it, and your legal, or cut and flood and it's o.k. Dove outfitters in the south spread rock salt, easy to get nabbed in that deal too!
 
oldandnew said:
Lots of waterfowl guys get nabbed for shooting over flooded fields that were baited by an outfitter. You can't tell from looking, and likely the hunters had no knowledge, but the law requires you to know, and guilt is based upon the appearance of guilt, i.e.you were there, you were shooting, therefore you are guilty, whether you atually participated in the baiting or not. I believe it is true,or at least used to be that, there was a 10 day withdrawal period, after which the field was not considered to be baited. what! On the other hand you could plant a crop, leave it stand, flood it, and your legal, or cut and flood and it's o.k. Dove outfitters in the south spread rock salt, easy to get nabbed in that deal too!
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Oldand new I think you missed the whole point of this thread.


op ,

you have a point . so does Ted.

Tim, Not shure what your saying, a little short for one of your posts. Just kidding:D
 
It's getting to be where a person has to have your attorney with you to know where you can shoot or not. ridiculous..plain and simple. Every time somebody doesn't like something. They say we need a law against that. Pretty soon, everybody becomes a criminal. The C.O. could write just about any group up for something. 75% of those laws on the books could be removed. They do little to nothing but provide revenue.. via fines. Ahhhhhh...maybe we now understand the real reason for continued efforts to implement even more laws and rules.
 
not lucky, just doin this the right way as they should be done. do i agree with all hunting regulation/laws? no. do i obey them tho? yes. i dont have a choice untill they are changed
 
As long as you submit to being a sheep and just following the herd, instead of standing up and voicing your disgust. You will only continue to see more restrictions. I'm voicing my opposition..that's my right. If enough would do it we could make changes happen but too many just Baaa, Baaaa follow the herd and point fingers....for those wanting to circumvent our laws, all they need is money. Go pay a preserve and shoot hundreds of birds, shoot fenced in 400 class Elk, make the cost prohibitive to all but the obscene wealthy(wild sheep as a example). Legislate out the poor working man..baiting vs food plots...all baiting, just the wealthy who can afford land and equipment. They are aloud to bait by planting their bait. The common man who works all but the weekends and owns little to no land. Isn't aloud to pour a pile of corn on the ground.

You get my drift I'm sure
 
OP you are right on target with the food plot/bait thing. I agree it is one in the same. All the common man can't get a head stuff I could do with out.
 
Jmac, if it makes you feel any better, I agree blue laws for anything are stupid, and border on unconstitutional, based on church and state seperation. My point on baiting and wildlife code violations in general, is the burden of proof is on the sportsman, not on the government. it's virtually indefensible. hence my example. Doubt it makes much difference to the duck, deer, turkey, dove, whether the "bait" came out of a bag, or was grown and flooded, or chopped to easy eating height.
 
tmrichardson said:
Agree with him on hunting blue laws, but from his actions and game law convictions, he'd say baiting game of all kinds and claiming it as sporting should also be allowed. Somewhere Fred Bear is wagging his finger at you, Ted.
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I bet Fred Bear did not hunt over nice little corn patches or Antler king clover patches either. Whats the diff if a land owner dumps out some corn or leaves it standing at mouth height so a deer don't have to bend over to pick it up. I see these little food plots all over and they are not really ever put up as a standard farming practice, it is baiting. One just trys to justify it, and condem the other.
 
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Here's the thing. We are dealing with more hunters then ever on less habitat. Minnesota has something in the neighborhood of 500,000 deer hunters. IMO, we need to go to a lottery system for any tag. Not everybody can have a buck tag and expect to have any kind of a quality deer herd. In South Dakota you have to draw for a buck tag and doe tags are much easier to get. In Minnesota it's the exact opposite. A poor buck to doe ratio leaves many doe's unbreed. With limited doe tags and everybody having a buck tag. Anything with legal antlers gets hammered near 100% of the time. It was really nice to hunt South Dakota and see several nice wall hanger bucks a day. Unlike Minnesota, where you might get a look at one a season if your lucky.

Bucks only is a dismal falure
 
I have just gave up all together deer hunting, Sold the Beneli and Leupold scope, sold the Mathews this year, getting ready to sell about 20 nice stands if I can get off my butt and pull em off trees. I have just gotten fed up with the BS in MN. All I have left is my Buck knife and muzzle loader. I do not want to read a bible and make 50 calls to wardens for ?'s anymore to go deer hunting. I was a nut too. People who know me can't believe it. It should be just like pheasant hunting,"enjoyable" no matter who you are. It has just gotten to be no fun. More like a hassle every year. You spend more time reading and scratching your head then hunting. 30 year run came to an end for me for now. I'll save my $ and do an elk hunt in Idaho.
 
onpoint said:
Here's the thing. We are dealing with more hunters then ever on less habitat. Minnesota has something in the neighborhood of 500,000 deer hunters. IMO, we need to go to a lottery system for any tag. Not everybody can have a buck tag and expect to have any kind of a quality deer herd. In South Dakota you have to draw for a buck tag and doe tags are much easier to get. In Minnesota it's the exact opposite. A poor buck to doe ratio leaves many doe's unbreed. With limited doe tags and everybody having a buck tag. Anything with legal antlers gets hammered near 100% of the time. It was really nice to hunt South Dakota and see several nice wall hanger bucks a day. Unlike Minnesota, where you might get a look at one a season if your lucky.

Bucks only is a dismal falure
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I don't know about that. There sure is a lot of public land out there in Minnesota. And quite a few people I know got nice bucks this year, some of them on public land. And these are "common working men."

It also sure seems to be that there are plenty of deer to satisfy most hunters, unless you are hunting in an area with lots of wolves.
 
Odd that this 2 year old statement would come out right after he was busted.

If he doesn't like the laws then he should do something about changing them before breaking them. His grandstanding is being counter productive. He's got the soapbox so why not use it for the advancement of the sport. He claims there are more deer, elk, turkey, bear, cougar, etc. than ever before. Well who can dispute that seeing as nobody was counting before we bought licenses and used some of that money for surveys? BTW- here in CA. they say the cougar is decimating the deer. Which is it? It can't be both ways.

He says not hunting on Sundays is unethical. But somehow shooting spiked bucks over bait is and anyone who baits a hook is a hypocrite. It wouldn't be a gray area if you didn't get caught Ted, and only for the advancement of your TV show at that.

He is right that the game laws need an overhaul and mass simplification. Also that we are by and large unorganized. However undermining what organization we do have by blatant disregard of the law isn't helping.

Call me when he sets up the Ted Nugent Habitat Restoration Program and I'll declare that a 'homerun'.
 
I could never understand the DNR deer management plan in Minnesota. Growing up there I knew plenty of people who would shoot spikes and forkhorns just because they were bucks. I do realize a lot of record bucks have come out of MN but you would think it could be a lot better if more does were harvested and the bucks were more difficult to get. Perhaps people would pass on the spike/forkhorn if they knew they had to wait a year or two for a tag.
 
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