Ness City Area - Leased Land

Rusty Trigger

Rusty Trigger

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Whats up with all the Leased land around Ness City. Seems half the county is posted as Leased, all the same type of hand made sign. Some type of hunting club or something? Haven't remember seeing this several years ago.
 
Well when people Internet blabb about all the birds or large deer they have found it doesnt help any.

Im not sure specifically what you're talking about as Ive only been in the area once this year and a few times the past couple years. During deer season I did see some out of state plates in the area with what looked to be a local guiding them as I was driving through. My guess is that they'd be leasing for deer in the area.

But Ive noticed this board is pretty bad about talking about good areas that they've had success in.

I wish people would be more vague in their descriptions.

Im also sick of going to spots 3-4 hours away from Wichita and seeing it overrun with out of staters. Their obviously getting their info online if their honing in and overruning good areas.


Anyways, Im sure you'll see more of it if the new Sec of the KDWP has his way. Comments made by the new secretary and KS Gov did not sound too promising for the average guy that doesnt want to lose the shirt off of his back in order to hunt.

If it comes to having to pay to lease land for deer hunting or a landowner a rediculous amount for a deer tag should they bring anything back like the landowner transferrable tag, I will quit hunting all together and let the farmers crops/fences be overrun w deer damage.

Id really like to find a link to an article I heard about that supposedly had some photos of the poachers from Wisconsin who ran deer with Greyhounds and are up for Tens of Thousands of dollars worth of fines....Anyone know what Im talking about?
 
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I talked to a lady today from Ness City. She said her husband has to run trespassers off of their land several times a week. During deer season they were hunting on their land and have been shot at 2 years in a row. People throwing lead at deer from the property boundary sent bullets very close to them. Not good.:mad:
The hunting pressure is getting very bad. I don't blame people for posting their property.
 
Id really like to find a link to an article I heard about that supposedly had some photos of the poachers from Wisconsin who ran deer with Greyhounds and are up for Tens of Thousands of dollars worth of fines....Anyone know what Im talking about?

Im from the town where this occured...they posted bail for $83,500! The court date is set for February 8th. http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1686659.html

There has since been more charges filed for some of the individuals including felonies! Plan on being in court...will update when all is done!
 
Alright, lets start bashing out of staters now! Hell, the area I hunt, and for many years know is overrun with a bunch of Sedgwick County jackasses. Even the farmers bitch about those guys. Maybe I should relocate my hunting area a little farther west than 3 or 4 hours from Wichita. I agree, folks ought to keep info a little more vague, I have seen the pressure increase in this area. Maybe just more hunters, maybe the info the state puts out or just info shared between buddies has some to do with the increase in pressure as well.

As far as deer leasing goes, it is bad news for the pheasant hunter.
 
Ness is no more leased than every other county. Its bad everywhere. Most of the leasing isn't pheasant hunters its deer hunters. Most of that land around ness city is leased up by a local who brings in lots of hunters.
 
i have come across plenty of " jack ass" hunters with kansas tags such as mine. Being from out of state has very little to do with sportsmanship. Being a steward of the land is something you are taught by others regardless of state in which you reside. Those " sportsman" that trash parking areas, trespass, shoot from car windows, hunt 1/4 sections of land with 40 hunters and 20 dogs, all have the same genes regardless of state. These are the people that give hunters as a whole a bad name. I used to be a real gung ho " meat harvester " when i was a younger man. Some may say I might have been a little hard to hunt with. But if I can get out with the dog and one of my boys and watch the dog point one or two and my boy down one, my day is certainly complete. I can do this with or with out of state hunters coming to my state. Hell they probably said the same thing about me in the 90's up in Iowa, or the last few in South Dakota.
 
I'm not bashing out of staters. Residents are just as much of a problem as nonresidents. Last year I had 14 trespassing incidents. Guys from 8 different states. The winner was.... Kansas with the most. Of course this was not a scientific poll! The margin of error was off the charts:eek:
 
carptom1 said:
i have come across plenty of " jack ass" hunters with kansas tags such as mine. Being from out of state has very little to do with sportsmanship. Being a steward of the land is something you are taught by others regardless of state in which you reside. Those " sportsman" that trash parking areas, trespass, shoot from car windows, hunt 1/4 sections of land with 40 hunters and 20 dogs, all have the same genes regardless of state. These are the people that give hunters as a whole a bad name. I used to be a real gung ho " meat harvester " when i was a younger man. Some may say I might have been a little hard to hunt with. But if I can get out with the dog and one of my boys and watch the dog point one or two and my boy down one, my day is certainly complete. I can do this with or with out of state hunters coming to my state. Hell they probably said the same thing about me in the 90's up in Iowa, or the last few in South Dakota.
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good post, lot of truth in what you have said......
 
I just gained permission to hunt a half section of grass today in Ness County and I found the landowner very friendly as we talked for about 30 minutes. He even had a group coming in this weekend to hunt but since it is just my brother and I hunting he said to have at it.

Now he didn't give me the golden key to hunt all his land but he did give me permission to hunt the specific piece I asked him about. I see leased land every way I go but fortunately for all of us budget hunters there are still millions of acres that remain un-leased.

I spent four hours today with no hunting gear on just meeting and greeting all the folks I could find at home and I hope that the hunting tomorrow goes as well as the prospecting did today.
 
Regardless of the state of residence, some people (note that I didn't call them hunters) seem to leave their ethics at home when they go out "hunting". I often wonder what goes through their mind, when they decide to trespass. "Gee, we're in the middle of nowhere, and that ground looks good, let's walk it real fast". I personally don't see how that seems logical to anyone.

Just know that if I see you out walking private property that I'm familiar with, I'll kindly stop and ask how you did. Somewhere along the conversation I'll find out if you actually know the owner or not. If it's the latter, I'll be in touch with both the gentleman that owns the place, and Operation Game-Thief.

I'm tired of residents and non-residents ruining the sport of hunting for all the ethical guys that head out hoping to enjoy the outdoors, meet some friendly folks, spend time with family and friends, and hopefully shoot some game. I can honestly say that I'm blessed being born and raised in Kansas, and I treat every place I visit as if it were my own.

About combing fields with a super large group. I personally think that's a "sissified" way to hunt, and an exploit to hunting in general.

Edit: Apologies for pointing the finger at you Rusty Trigger, but aren't you Texans responsible for starting this entire "lease to hunt" mentality? Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I believe that's where the idea really took hold.
 
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Cowboy4 said:
I'm not bashing out of staters. Residents are just as much of a problem as nonresidents. Last year I had 14 trespassing incidents. Guys from 8 different states. The winner was.... Kansas with the most. Of course this was not a scientific poll! The margin of error was off the charts:eek:
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Now, that was a funny post, but so true. Those trespassers give all the good hunters a bad name.
 
Rusty Trigger said:
Oh, I was just busting KsHusker's chop's about his comment in the post about out of stater's.
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No harm no foul. :)

You do know you drive more than 4 hours straight west of wichita you'll be in colorado dont you? :) Ha...Ive seen enough colorado guys where I go this year, I doubt theres any of them at home to hunt their own state, so driving 4 hours west over the border might be a good thing. :)

As far as out of state pressure, thats whats driving me nuts, guess Im not one to share good hunting spots, I dont blame guys for coming here, but its agitating that the pressure here has progressively gotten worse. This year was one of the heavier ones in recent memory.

I pay my tax dollars here and live here year round. Fix your own states problems and you might have a few birds. Thats all I ask. Raise some money for habitat and take care of what you have etc.

As far as Texas - y'all ruined that state years ago with the greed and leasing bug. Im just glad theres enough dumb oilmen that stay down there and pay $10k for a deer lease to shoot a buck the size of a german shepherd with antler on it. A deer with a body that small, any set of bone up there is going to look big.

Not pointing a finger at you Rusty, you're probably just as agitated that is the environment down there as Im sure we're agitated its getting that way here.

Ive always wanted to hunt quail in the Panhandle of texas, but I refuse to pay someone rediculous amounts of hard earned money to chase around some quail. As I said if it gets to that point here, Im moving elsewhere or hanging it up altogether like many others have done.

I wonder if Crazy Dan is leasing any of the land around Ness. If any of you have hunted and paid money to hunt with Crazy Dan and his dumb ass golden retrievers then you know who Im talking about. I dont think many of the locals around Bazine like him.

Alright Im off my high horse.
 
Yes, I do believe it's in Texas that leasing to hold, big money from Houston and Dallas. However, I don't believe it is the Texan's leasing up the lands in Kansas, otherwise you would see an elevated box blind and a corn feeder every 400 yards.

Lets just hope the deer hunters stay in check and don't lease all that much, hope for cold enough winters to keep the fire ants down south and hope the pigs are kepted in checked from making it that far north. Otherwise, the great sport of bird hunting as I have participated in for my entire life while I was a resident and a nonresident will be lost.
 
KsHusker said:
Well when people Internet blabb about all the birds or large deer they have found it doesnt help any.

Im not sure specifically what you're talking about as Ive only been in the area once this year and a few times the past couple years. During deer season I did see some out of state plates in the area with what looked to be a local guiding them as I was driving through. My guess is that they'd be leasing for deer in the area.

But Ive noticed this board is pretty bad about talking about good areas that they've had success in.

I wish people would be more vague in their descriptions.

Im also sick of going to spots 3-4 hours away from Wichita and seeing it overrun with out of staters. Their obviously getting their info online if their honing in and overruning good areas.


Anyways, Im sure you'll see more of it if the new Sec of the KDWP has his way. Comments made by the new secretary and KS Gov did not sound too promising for the average guy that doesnt want to lose the shirt off of his back in order to hunt.

If it comes to having to pay to lease land for deer hunting or a landowner a rediculous amount for a deer tag should they bring anything back like the landowner transferrable tag, I will quit hunting all together and let the farmers crops/fences be overrun w deer damage.

Id really like to find a link to an article I heard about that supposedly had some photos of the poachers from Wisconsin who ran deer with Greyhounds and are up for Tens of Thousands of dollars worth of fines....Anyone know what Im talking about?
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Excellent post!
 
Covey Rise magazine has a article this month on the negative effects of corn feeders on Bobwhite quail. Tends to concentrate them in smaller areas and increases depredation from coons which are apperently omnipresent at all corn feeders. afflitoxics from bad corn is also an issue.
 
Rusty Trigger said:
Yes, I do believe it's in Texas that leasing to hold, big money from Houston and Dallas. However, I don't believe it is the Texan's leasing up the lands in Kansas, otherwise you would see an elevated box blind and a corn feeder every 400 yards.

Lets just hope the deer hunters stay in check and don't lease all that much, hope for cold enough winters to keep the fire ants down south and hope the pigs are kepted in checked from making it that far north. Otherwise, the great sport of bird hunting as I have participated in for my entire life while I was a resident and a nonresident will be lost.
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Ha....theres some places where I see an elevated blind on multiple hills. No point in corn feeders here since theres so much corn grown...it'd be a waste.

Really, its people from all over the US that lease land for deer, not just Texas.

As far as pigs, they outlawed shooting them here to prevent people from further trying to stalk them. Supposedly the USDA (im thinking its them, anyways one of the govt divisions) has done a good job keeping them in check via helicopter.

As far as cold, boy...Canada needs to plant some larger windbreakds :).... we've had some serious cold spells this winter. It so far has been milder than last year, but the past few winters have been longer and colder than what we got in the late 90's and early '00's
 
I'm from Texas and this was my first year to get to hunt in Kansas, I thoroughly enjoyed it! Upland hunting in Texas will never be what it once was, deer hunting is the king here and bobwhite quail and quail hunters are paying the consequences. I hate how everything is fenced and leased here, it's ridiculous. It's all about $$, and that's not going to change. I was north of Dodge City last weekend and it seemed like everything was leased and fenced, very frustrating. I hope Kansas doesn't adopt Texas' screwed up system. Guys want $300 for a 1 day quail hunt when you'll be lucky to find 3 coveys! That's a 3-4 day trip to KS license included. I try to be discreet on here about areas I hunt. I had a great time this year and hope OOSers aren't considered a nuissance to KS residents. We are starved for good hunting down here and y'all have a great program! PF and QF are very important in the conservation of our beloved sport in every way imaginable, support them! I also don't understand the whole 14 hunters and 6 labs stomping through a 6 acre field (also known as Cock Blockers), that is ridiculous and about as unsportsman as it gets!
 
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