Agree with all of the above. Pretty well sums it up IMO. Especially the post-hunt grooming.Harder to find a good hunting golden line I think. But I’ve hunted over one and she’s similar to a good lab in finding, flushing and retrieving. In this case, any differences between the golden and the labs have more to do with differences in training than in the breeds of dog. Biggest difference for what I’ve seen is far more post-hunt grooming with a golden! Seeing her at the end of a muddy hunt or if there’s been any amount of burrs in the cover is enough to convince me to stick with labs!
I’m a hard core dedicated Lab guy-will probably never change—As someone who’s had & hunted over labs his whole life, what are some differences between a lab as opposed to a Golden in the field? Leaning heavily towards a Golden pup this time.
If one has a good line of hunting dogs,why involve them in field trials? And why the emphasis on field-trial accomplishments, when advertising their respective liters? Dunno.I spoke with one breeder who kept telling me about how her dogs dual show/hunting dogs & used the word “show” a little too much for me. Needless to say, it was a short conversation
I will grant there a lot of good to great hunting dogs out there-and if you’ve seen both parents work or hunted with them-your probably good-If one has a good line of hunting dogs,why involve them in field trials? And why the emphasis on field-trial accomplishments, when advertising their respective liters? Dunno.
If you read a pedigree some/most have various field trial accomplishments. As a hunter, this means very little (to me) as some of the trials are water-based...perhaps this appeals to the duck hunter.
Possible place to start in ones search for a dog, could be trainers in a given area. They may, at least, head you in the right direction.
Where are you located? State? Perhaps some of us can help with your search...I appreciate everyone’s insight & thoughts on the subject. I’ve only ever owned & hunted labs. Mainly upland. That’s my passion. My last buddy passed away a couple years ago & ive been out of the game since then. I’m ready again. The reason I’m considering a Golden is that a friend of mine breeds Golden’s & runs them in hunt tests & they’re beautiful animals. He won’t have another litter for a year or so I’ve been doing some research. Ready to try a different breed. Really looking forward to my new pup!
Have you looked at the "Top Brass" line of Golden's? Their line of dogs have been included/used by several breeders in the Midwest. Jackie Mertens has been breeding field Golden's for a long time. She is located in the Chicago area which might be a bit of a hike for you...I live in South central Indiana. I’m trying to avoid traveling across country & shipping. I found a breeder a few hours away from me & have talked to a few guys that know his kennel & have hunted behind his dogs & he’s gotten high praise from them. Think I might go with him but I’m open to suggestions
I live in South central Indiana. I’m trying to avoid traveling across country & shipping. I found a breeder a few hours away from me & have talked to a few guys that know his kennel & have hunted behind his dogs & he’s gotten high praise from them. Think I might go with him but I’m open to suggestions
Dogs that break down have nothing to do with frame size, but more a weight and conditioning issue. My 91 lb male is 11 years old and can still out hunt my 5 year old athletic 55 lb female.I will add one tidbit, I had a friend who raised HUNTING goldens, and they mature to be light framed , very athletic dogs... He has passed, and his lineage lost. They were GREAT dogs.... I am a Lab guy, and would have be very happy with such well bred dogs
in Dual breedings you may end up with a MORE STOCKY specimen, which may hunt, and hunt hard, but in the end, can have have issues , with hips, and or Back,due to Carrying a large frame around in Upland situations.... I have seen in the field , and at hunt tests, Dual dogs perform well...
But you may not get the Lifespan of a dog, you could out of field breeding...
You want them removed. Also I don't think I have ever bought a dog from a breeder. I buy them from trainers, hunters, and competitors who occasionally breed a litter.Let me throw this at everyone as well. What are your thoughts on dew claw removal? One breeder says that they do not remove them as they can be useful to the dog? Never heard that before. Not saying it isn’t true