All I can say is that the German testing system works. The versitle hunter is what I wanted too. Ducks, pheasants, fur. I decided on a Drahthaar (wirehair pointer) from Vom Wildflugel kennels in Nebraska. No formal training just lots of field time and the dog put it all together on his own. I thought about the longhair pointer as they are beautiful dogs but did not want to deal with difficulties from the coat (ie stickers, briars, and burrs). That was my main reason for picking the wirehair. I would not trade Quill to save my life!