Designer Pheasant hunters

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onpoint said:
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"We just closed on some hunting land this fall in sw mn. Not one of us is "well off". Where there is a will, there is a way."

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As I said we have farmed for years. We do own some land. It's sad to see each of us being fenced into our own property and having to defend it as our last stand in our freedom to hunt.

onpoint
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yeah, deer hunting in WI is like that too. Pretty sad really
 
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onpoint said:
I like fine things as much as anybody. I buy good equipment but my Kangaroo Red Wings after one season show I use them. My camo Browning Cynergy took a swim when I was trying to retrieve a Mallard drifting in 35mph wind/waves, sprinting in foot deep mud and waste deep water before it headed a 1/2 mile down wind. The mud was packed in the recoil pad from crawling on greenheads.

I'm no Dash in the uplands man http://www.hwhproductions.com/dashBios.html

Way too stuffy. The guy IMO belongs behind a cherry wood desk and drinking out of a brandy snifter

I'm more of a Dave Gruber type(rest in peace my friend) http://wolfcreekinc.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=44

Dave Gruber is what I'm like. Old School..show your ware and tear..ruff around the edges and all business when it comes to making use of every opportunity that a bird presents. It's about putting those special meals on the table, about tradition passed on by my father & grandfather. Working through tough weather, hunting only wild birds, working to scout them weather on public land or private. Getting permission, driving miles and miles a day sometimes. Just chaps my hide to put those who just drive to a location, pay somebody a fee and walk a mowed path. Than call them a hunter like myself. That's not hunting, it's shooting and killing. All for different reason's IMO. I do it for the challenge and tradition. They do it IMO for like most other things in their life. A must drive to take a short cut to out do others. I have a couple of friends who work for a construction outfit owned by their father. They go to South Dakota every year to hunt Pheasants. If you can call it that. They hunt on a preserve. Last year their bill was over $30,000 for their party. The first day of this year they shot 130 birds for their group. They take a van out there and get drunk all the way there. They get hammered every night they are there. That's not what my father or grandfather described to me when they talked about the great hunts they had in years past. They are the people who I see with $1,000 of clothes on. They brag, brag, brag on the hundreds of birds they killed. Like they are some super hunter. Sorry, shooting a bird you had to kick in the ass to make it take flight isn't much to brag about to me. In fact, I think it's about as far from my father and grandfathers hunting as you could get.

I'll stick to my style of hunting. Trust me, my special meal with friends and relatives that consist of the great game birds I earned with hard work and skill are far more appreciated than the forgotten birds somewhere on the bottom of their freezer come next summer when they are cleaning them out. as the wife and kids wouldn't think of eating those birds not from a store..Chicken only family.

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There are fine gentlemen like you and others like the fellow who hunts with "Dash in the Uplands." We need more hunters, not fewer, so we should be open and friendly to all types so long as they are lawful, ethical hunters.
 
Beer, cocktails & wine could solve the worlds problems if just applied right..LOL

But one women could cause a entire country to topple and men to do the unthinkable
 
onpoint said:
If that's what you gather from all this. I'm fighting a loosing battle.

It's about selling our game and access to it to the highest bidder, meanwhile pricing many out of the sport. Particularly our younger generation who are choosing to do other more expressible activities that are more affordable.

It's obvious many of you just choose to continue to ride the current wave and except where ever it takes us and the sport.

I'm done, have a good season
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I am 26 and I agree with onpoint. Hunting is getting to be very expensive, I shoot the "Free" state birds and I will also pay for some private birds as well. Without the state to kick out birds, I would only be able to go out 3 times a year if that. It is very hard to compete with the out of state weenies who can drop a few grand per trip and think nothing of it. Around here the land owners will not let the public on their land for free. You pay for it, and the out of state hunters make it difficult to get on. Being younger does not
help either, since most of my friends do not have the money that the east coast weekend warriors have, so many find other things to do with their time.
 
I know several people who come to south dakota and only hunt public land. there is alot of walk in area but I think people overlook the waterfowl production areas and some of the other public land. consider buying a plat book(just google plat book) for the county that you plan on hunting it could really help. My brother and I hunted only public land last weekend and we still got our birds. I have a lot of relatives that farm so we added up all the private land we have permission to hunt on and it is over 10,000 acres and yet we ended up hunting public land just because were we have been duck hunting we have been seeing alot of pheasants so we decided to spend the day walking waterfowl production. We always here about how tough it is to find places to hunt but If you're really into the joy of the hunt and not just alot of birds there are alot of places to kick up a few birds. Just gotta stay positive and not let the propaganda get to you
 
onpoint said:
Well, I for one love the landowner that can't be bought. To see the look on Mr money bags face when he see's boat loads of birds across the fence and no matter how much cash he waves the answer is NO!

Family and friends are allowed to hunt only. Nice to see that some still put other things ahead of money.
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Some-one's a little green with envy, I hate that its coming to pay to hunt private land, but as long as the farmers are charging someone is paying. You don't seem mad at the farmer for taking money from the Gov. to not grow crops but won't let anyone hunt.
Most the guys with real money wouldn't be caught dead in Cabela's.
As long as their safe and ethical they don't bother me.
 
Lmao

RogerWYO said:
Dang it all to heck. I was gona wash my truck before heading to Kansas so I could see out the windows. Not now, all of you will make fun of me.

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you're a hoot
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New Guy

Ok, well here is my $0.02!

By the way, I am a new guy and I am also a middle class person so I might not have much to say, but don't judge me!


We own 2 SUV's! One is trail ready 2003 Jeep Wrangler and a 2010 Ford Explorer. With that in mind I would rather drive my wife's Explorer to get to my "local" hunting, or fishing spot. Because I can only imagine that "local" in the state of Texas, or Washington State will be a few hundred miles away! Anyone whom has made a trip in a Wrangler that is lifted and on 35's would think the same as me!

The 70 miles to Ft. Worth Bass Pro Shop or the hour drive to Post Falls Cabela's will be easier to make in the Explorer than in the wrangler.

On a second note!!!!!! I am married to a wonderful woman whom never lets me leave the house dirty, bloody, smelly and all my underwear is ironed! I will never really have new things, and I am ok with that, but my clothing will look new if it is up to my wife!


I will however, march through the toughest terrain and thickest brush to flush out birds! However, I will never pay for guided birds in groomed fields.


If that makes me a Designer hunter well then guilty as charged! :cheers:

The hell with it, we are all here becuase we hunt right?
 
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First off, I was hoping this thread would have stayed buried where no one would find it. Not one of my better topics I ever started.

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The hell with it, we are all here because we hunt right? "

Yes we are!:cheers:
 
Sorry

Sorry onpoint~

After posting I came to the realization that the thread was 1 year old. I am an idiot!

Don't mind me I am new guy, I really don't mean any harm!:thumbsup:
 
german_jeep_2003 said:
Sorry onpoint~

After posting I came to the realization that the thread was 1 year old. I am an idiot!

Don't mind me I am new guy, I really don't mean any harm!:thumbsup:
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Not a problem..LOL. You will fit in nicely. We all can be idiots. I started the stupid thread..LOL:cheers:
 
Looks Ain't Everything

Looks ain't everything when it comes to taking a measure of a fella, even a hunter. Hunting is vilified by some quarters so we should welcome everyone who is with us, whether richer or poorer.
 
If you guys know anyone like this, I have a 2 acre pasture, I'll plant 3 golden pheasants per hunter for $500 per gun. Call a head for reservations I can also release reeves, and lady amherest pheasants for a little extra. I can see the money now.:D
 
New to SD

What an interesting thread! I'm an old, middle-class guy, coming out in mid-November for the first time to hunt SD, from North Carolina, with my sons-in-law and daughter. We're going to take our chances on public land and WIA in the Wagner area--we can't afford lodges, or even 150 bucks a day; but we're used to working hard for not very many birds--we've hunted Nebraska for five years, so we are used to it! Cat tails sound OK to me, and I've got chaps I used to use for quail hunting--try southern briers sometime, if you want to give blood while hunting!
But the reason I piggyback on this thread is the smile it brought to me; one year, the only rental car the airport had for us, through some mix-up, was a black Lincoln town car! You think WE didn't look out of place! I hate to think of the Avis attendant who had to clean up that trunk... ;-) Just kidding! But the memories--that's what we hunt for, the memories. Nebraska; now I hope, South Dakota. See you out there: We're the tired, dirty, happy out of state folks down in the deep weeds. But not hunting from a Lincoln pimpmobile this year, I hope!
 
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I like my new dodge 2500, my filson jackets,pants and boots, my Citori ,and most of all my hi powered field champion pointers. I work a lot of 7 day weeks dark to dark lot of the time and i spend the money ,kids aint getting nothing but my guns when they put me in the ground.mid nov to march i take off and hunt. Wasnt like this all my life, had a 66 mustang with the doors wired to keep it shut that i ran a trap line out of and hunted out of. like the new stuff now days:cheers:
 
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I love em

I love each and every one of the filson/hummer/franchi/moneybags guys. Why, cause without them, I couldn't afford to hunt my dog and wouldn't get to take trips anywhere. I work a real job 5 days a week, from Oct. thru March, those "one-timers" come to a preserve every Saturday (I sneak a Friday in too once in awhile) and tip me very well after my dogs guides them on hunts. That money allows me to come to SD to hunt, my dog gets to do what he was born for and my wife leaves me alone about spending the money. In fact, she loves them too, they paid for a family trip to Disney last year.

Don't knock em, they support the economy are generally really good people and end up being supporters of the sport. BTW, I have some fancy new duds this year too, bought them all on e-bay in March for a third of their cost.

Dad and I will be starting our drive tomorrow, arriving Thursday and using the full ten days of our license. The 3 GSPS are gonna have a ball -god I love those limo hunters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
IMHO.......better that the money is spent on goods and pheasants rather than the land. This is the way it has been for 15 years, and it's not getting worse. However, if the land gets bought up rather than hunting gear and trucks, whether it is locals or oos, we will have problems. Good luck hunting any private land then. I for one prefer the current model.
 
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Moellermd, first of all I have to say that I love the pictures of your dogs in the trunk of the car. That was awesome.
Secondly I want to say that although my '93 Suburban is far from 'designer' and my clothes do look new, I take pleasure hunting the grass that's way over my head and I don't have a problem getting wet and dirty and neither do my dogs!!
My clothes look new because they are. That and I have the privilege of having a mother who (still after all these years) loves to sew. I buy a new pair of pants and she'll sew the cordura on the fronts and backs of the legs a lot cheaper than those fancy stores can let them out the door at!!
I know, it sounds funny, a grown man saying his mother sews for him, but I love having her do it. Due to her cancer and the chemo, she can't get out in the field as much so she does this for me and my dad and I provide her with as much fresh meat for the table as I can!
Without our families close by us, where else would we be?!
 
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