Benny Spies in SD the pheasant limit is ??????

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2point

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I watched a show called Benny Spies on versus about this guy that goes around hunting in his old RV. He isn't what you would call a classic sportsman. He hunted pheasants in South Dakota on a shelter belt drive and he shot a ton and got 3 roosters, the other guy next to him must have gotten 10 roosters. This never looked like a game farm. The had hundreds fly over them. They all made fun of him for only getting 3 birds. Isn't the limit 3, could the one guy shoot his possession limit of 15 in one day legally?? And then put it on TV???? Anybody else see this?
 
Benny is from Watertown, SD. Unless he was on a hunting preserve I would say they were in violation of the limit law. 3 per day and no party hunting. However, I don't know how closely this is enforced. And "No", you can not shoot your possession limit in one day.
 
i don't know why these guys make these shows anyway, they do more harm than good for all hunters.....never fails.
 
Some years ago, I got a surprise when talking with a DNR spokesman about limits.

For no particular reason, I always figured that the possession limit was double the day limit so that a hunter could hunt both days on a weekend and make it back home.

He said that possession in Wisconsin includes birds in the freezer, which at that time would have had me paying big fines and jail time. OK, maybe not, but a fine, anyway.

I think my misconception came from the whole myth about living off the land, putting up food for the Winter, and the day limit was game management.

Not the case, and then he went off on the whole concept of canned pheasants which folks put up prior to the comericialization of refrigerators and freezers for the home. How the home freezer had them changing the laws. (I'm still not entirely clear about how that logic works.)

He chuckled (I didn't care for the guy) about men going up to their deer camps with a chest full of that season's ducks for the hunters' meals, and getting fined for over-the-limit possession.

Was only a problem because at the time I was working with a GWP pup, and taking her out a LOT to have her learn about pheasants and working cover. I'd clean and freeze the birds.

After the discussion with the guy, I started giving pheasants to neighbors.

I find it easy to follow the rules, but due to my own presumption, wasn't doing it. :(
 
2point said:
I watched a show called Benny Spies on versus about this guy that goes around hunting in his old RV. He isn't what you would call a classic sportsman. He hunted pheasants in South Dakota on a shelter belt drive and he shot a ton and got 3 roosters, the other guy next to him must have gotten 10 roosters. This never looked like a game farm. The had hundreds fly over them. They all made fun of him for only getting 3 birds. Isn't the limit 3, could the one guy shoot his possession limit of 15 in one day legally?? And then put it on TV???? Anybody else see this?
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I saw this one as well!! I think he was hunting on Warne Ranches with Cody Warne!! Preserve licensed!!
 
To the best of my knowledge, no party hunting only applies to big game in South Dakota. I find nothing that says that party hunting pheasants is illegal.

I just watch Mr Tom Knapp telling a young lady, that that's the nice thing about hunting pheasants in South Dakota. If your in the right spot, you can shoot everybody's limit. If you think about it, what good would pheasant drives be, if your standers have shot their 3 birds. I can't count the amount of times hunters have just piled all their birds in the box of the truck. How would anybody know who shot what?

I find that you can have no more then 20 hunters in a party but nothing on party hunting.

Just a note, I think Gun it with Benny is a great show. A regular guy in blue jeans, shooting a old 870. The guy isn't ever at some fancy hunting lodge with what amounts to hunting chickens raised in pens. Two thumbs up Benny!
 
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i don't think i would want to walk out of a field (in front of a game warden) with 3 other guys, carrying 12 birds.....
 
Well post up the link/law that says no party hunting of pheasants. It's that simple. That will end any debate.
 
I am currently in possession of my dog of a lifetime....I am fairly certain that I will not have a dog like him again. One thing that occurs time and time again is that he finds birds that other dogs can't find, and I routinely walk out of fields with lots of other guys' birds. I have been checked by wardens quite a bit in my 18 seasons in SD, and we have never been asked to identify who shot how many birds...the wardens typically want to know total #'s, if they ask at all. Normally, it is licenses that are checked, and usually bird totals as well, but I can't recall ever having to pinpoint individual hunter #'s...quite honestly, I know there are always a fair # of birds that are shot at by more than one hunter, and it is pretty tough to know who shot what. I feel like I am doing my sporting duty by going to the spot where birds fall no matter who shot, and mostly my dogs do that for me on their own before I ever start to head toward downed birds. I believe that wardens would appreciate and respect that effort. I may be wrong, but I believe that party hunting is legal in SD...if it weren't, I would think that allowing groups of up to 20 hunters wouldn't be allowed....but, I could be wrong.
 
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my 2 cents..... In ND limit is 12 in possession - 3 a day. 7 days to hunt. So in 4 days you can have your limit. Don't have 12 in 2 days. No birds 1st day shoot six second day (3 while hunting and you better put the other 3 in the freezer so you will be legal) That's the way I hunt. No beer at the end of the hunt in the car you will get fined for that too!

Lazlo
 
I saw this one as well!! I think he was hunting on Warne Ranches with Cody Warne!! Preserve licensed!!
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I thought it might be a preserve, usually on a preserve they shoot hens and roosters. They only shot roosters. There were several hundred birds flying toward them. I do remember him saying the owner was saving this special spot for Benny. I wish I would have paid more attention at the beginning of the show. Maybe a SD conservation officer should watch the show.
 
2point said:
I thought it might be a preserve, usually on a preserve they shoot hens and roosters. They only shot roosters. There were several hundred birds flying toward them. I do remember him saying the owner was saving this special spot for Benny. I wish I would have paid more attention at the beginning of the show. Maybe a SD conservation officer should watch the show.
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2Point, I don't think or couldn't imagine anyone breaking game laws and putting it on T.V. A lot of times they will never shoot hens on preserves up there. If I remember right, and my memory is not great, They have to release a certain amount of birds in ratio of what they harvest. Not sure if it is 1/1 or what, but I know some who only release hens and wait to do it at a certain time. If the ratio was 1/1 and they took 100 roosters, they would release 100 hens. So you are most likely shooting wild birds, some raised by released hens. Trust me, they have it figured out up there!!
 
Bennie cracks me up. I think the thing I like best about him is knowing that he's driving the politically correct crowd absolutely nuts. There are some on this site who will argue ethics with those of you who hunt in groups and maybe shoot bird limits as a group, but not me.

Watching Bennie's show is like hunting with my brothers. No fancy guns. No fancy clothes. A lot of trash talking, especially over missed shots. Good clean fun in the field and plenty of beer when the day is done.

Talking about group hunting, a few years ago my bunch was tired, had worn a fair amount of boot leather that day and with two bird shy of a limit were pass shooting pheasants on a road between a corn field and a marsh. I had taken my setter, Molly, out for a little more work, but returned before the boys had filled the limit. Molly's in her kennel and I'm sitting on the tailgate, surrounded by a pile of 19 birds, sipping on a cold one, when a warden pulls up. He checks my license. We talk through the day, count the 19 birds, one of the guys shoots #20, then #21. All of them get up in unison, unloading and walking back. The warden checks each one in turn before wishing us a good hunt and stay in SD. Never once did he say anything about group hunting, only that we had better be within our limit of 21 for the group of 7.

I think it all evens out in the end. Cousin Kelly is a terrible shot and doesn't shoot many birds. He doesn't complain, but you can tell he'd like to be able to keep up with the rest of us. On one hunt, the old gun he's always used [it was his dad's and a sentimental piece] failed him. Using a borrowed, new 1187 he shot 6 roosters that day. We were all very happy for him. His brother Mike had boot problems a few years ago and was hobbling around so bad we made him post a lot when walking corn. He sure got in a lot of shooting and it was fun watching having such a good time. I'd gladly give up my 3 for him. Same for the other guys.

The guy who ends up being the group game hog, is another story. I've seen those guys who make no attempt to get others over birds after he's shot his limit and just keeps banging away. My dogs will find more birds and so I have more opportunities, but I'm always trying to get my companions in there so they can have their share of action.
 
Ranger Rick said:
Bennie cracks me up. I think the thing I like best about him is knowing that he's driving the politically correct crowd absolutely nuts. There are some on this site who will argue ethics with those of you who hunt in groups and maybe shoot bird limits as a group, but not me.

Watching Bennie's show is like hunting with my brothers. No fancy guns. No fancy clothes. A lot of trash talking, especially over missed shots. Good clean fun in the field and plenty of beer when the day is done.

Talking about group hunting, a few years ago my bunch was tired, had worn a fair amount of boot leather that day and with two bird shy of a limit were pass shooting pheasants on a road between a corn field and a marsh. I had taken my setter, Molly, out for a little more work, but returned before the boys had filled the limit. Molly's in her kennel and I'm sitting on the tailgate, surrounded by a pile of 19 birds, sipping on a cold one, when a warden pulls up. He checks my license. We talk through the day, count the 19 birds, one of the guys shoots #20, then #21. All of them get up in unison, unloading and walking back. The warden checks each one in turn before wishing us a good hunt and stay in SD. Never once did he say anything about group hunting, only that we had better be within our limit of 21 for the group of 7.

I think it all evens out in the end. Cousin Kelly is a terrible shot and doesn't shoot many birds. He doesn't complain, but you can tell he'd like to be able to keep up with the rest of us. On one hunt, the old gun he's always used [it was his dad's and a sentimental piece] failed him. Using a borrowed, new 1187 he shot 6 roosters that day. We were all very happy for him. His brother Mike had boot problems a few years ago and was hobbling around so bad we made him post a lot when walking corn. He sure got in a lot of shooting and it was fun watching having such a good time. I'd gladly give up my 3 for him. Same for the other guys.

The guy who ends up being the group game hog, is another story. I've seen those guys who make no attempt to get others over birds after he's shot his limit and just keeps banging away. My dogs will find more birds and so I have more opportunities, but I'm always trying to get my companions in there so they can have their share of action.
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AMEN Rick, excellent post
 
I'll second that Rick! That is exactly what I experienced hunting with my father and his group and that is the way my friends and I hunt now. It is nice now that we all have dogs as we all enjoy watching the dogs work and trash talking on each other's dogs and our shooting abilities.
 
Kinda like Young Bert, the not quite right dog... there's something you just gotta love about being "not quite right". Too many people put way too much stock in perfection and perfection rarely exisits in nature.
 
woke up to Britt's barking and coyotes howling at 1:00am something last night-
things settled down- I turned the big screen TV on and saw VS channel 151 had Gun It with Benny- watched a couple hours- quite refreshing to watch something that is actually more realistic- they were in the motorhome, traveling, pheasants, coyote hunting, duck and geese hunting, deer on a golf course hunting, and a buffalo hunt- enjoyed watching- sort of seems like real guys out for a good time

actually a bit hard to understand that road hunting for pheasants- but they sure had a good time- sure did talk about the rules of road hunting- wish the road hunters arround here were 1/2 as concerned
 
onpoint said:
Well post up the link/law that says no party hunting of pheasants. It's that simple. That will end any debate.
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Just because it is not in the rulebook, does not make it legal. The laws are written to the individual, not to the party.
 
Was legal when I was there

I went to college at Brookings, SD back in the late 1980's (thought I had died and gone to heaven the hunting was so good). Party hunting for pheasants was legal then and I can find nothing in the current regs that says that has changed for pheasants (not legal for big game or waterfowl). In fact on opening weekend family and friends would meet up and hunt in a group of 20 (max under the law) and on Monday in class you would hear South Dakota students talk about "got our 60" (20 x 3 for Saturday). If you listened closely you would learn many of them never fired a shot as they were young and thus the pushers, the blockers did all the shooting. I only was part of this once (and that was enough for me). However, this was South Dakota tradition, just like Minnesota where I grew up party hunting for deer was LEGAL (if fact you didn't have to tag a deer until it went in a pick up). I don't take part in party hunting legal or not but where legal I have no problem with it.
 
BrowningCitori- I went to College in Whapeton, a few of us would go down to SD in one vehicle-

Also- grew up in N Minn. only relatives could hunt in our deer paty- load into a truck or flatbed and drive the old logging road deep into the woods- everyone would head to stands in the dark- meet at dark to head out- remember those metal tags-

you sure brought back fond memories of party hunting
 
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