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Waterfowler2001

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I personally think that 8 quail are way too many especially with the quail in decline...most states have 4 or 5 bag limits..also if south Dakota is the king of pheasants why is Kansas bag limit 4 roosters while south Dakotas is 3..Kansas hasnt had the bird numbers like south Dakota's in years
 
Killing the roosters has little or no impact on the next years pheasant numbers. Its a matter of how many hens you have going into breading season and what the weather and habitat is like during the hatch/brooding period.
 
I have to agree with setternut. I would also add that declining numbers of birds is not due too hunting pressure in most situations/ states. Hunters are declining more and more each year from this sport. Keeping a reasonable baglimit attracts hunters, which generates revenue.
 
Yes I agree at that it doesn't matter how many roosters are killed..but if the state of Kansas really wanted more revenue they fix up habitat..they would farm for pheasants just like the state of south Dakota does..Kansas just wants the revenue I'm my opinion I think Kansas overstates about how good the hunting is just to get revenue which leaves a lot of people upset..and don't come back which is losing revenue
 
Waterfowler54 said:
Yes I agree at that it doesn't matter how many roosters are killed..but if the state of Kansas really wanted more revenue they fix up habitat..they would farm for pheasants just like the state of south Dakota does..Kansas just wants the revenue I'm my opinion I think Kansas overstates about how good the hunting is just to get revenue which leaves a lot of people upset..and don't come back which is losing revenue
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The nerve of the State to put its best foot forward to attract hunters :eek::D
But there are few states with the kind of WIHA program that we have...
 
Leave Kansas Alone!!!!! It is the way it is because it is not commercialized like S.D.!!!! South Dakota commercializes birds like Colorado does Big Game!!!! Fine, leave it at that! It is a money maker for S.D.!! Kansas is the Blue collar of bird hunters!!! I do not need to say more!!!
 
climate is just different bet. SD and KS.......even during the CRP haydays, Kansas bird hunting was nothing like SD...SD wins hands down.
 
Never bagged 8 quail in a day. What's it like? :p
 
At one point Missouri's quail limit was 10, I did that regularly, we quit quail hunting in Kansas after the third day of a week hunt, with limits of 24 many,many, times. It's habitat. In my opinion, there were never quite as many pheasants in Kansas as South Dakota, and Nebraska and Iowa in those days were second. In Kansas, we hunted quail, we got roosters pointed as a consiquence. If you wanted just roosters you hunted slightly difference areas, even in the same section, or certainly a township. More targeted per species. Weren't any quail in South Dakota except in Mix county, that I ever saw. You were focused in pheasants, north of the 3 counties along the Missouri border, in Iowa pheasants and occassionally huns were the bird. North of the Platte River and west of Broken Bow virtually no quail, you get sharptails up in the same habitat. If you know the the local topography in Kansas, you can be in pheasants pretty regularity, in a normal year.
 
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if ya don't like the limits cause they are too high, don't shoot it, most don't have to worry about it anyway. hard to tell male and female bob's in flight but you can try and pick out the white patch and or go home with fewer quail and rejoice about having been out in the field, maybe with your mutt

cheers
 
I'll answer here with my personal, not professional, opinion. First, it is great to want to improve habitat. However, the State wildlife agency only has control of land it either owns or leases and that amounts of 1% or less of the land in the State. Private landowners are in control of whatever happens on their land and they have to WANT to improve it for it to happen. With comodity prices as high as they have been in decades, that isn't a priority right now. As for limits, all the research I've ever read has indicated that changing the limits has negligible effects on overall harvest. One thing that would help is for hunters to quit judging how many quail to havest from a covey based on the size of the covey. Quail instinctively reconstitute coveys daily to approach near 14 in the covey. This size is most adaptive for survival. If hunters harvest a certain number per covey based on the size of the covey, they will eventually contribute to additive mortality where birds taken in the current season cuts into the following year's population. The proper goal is to harvest 25-40% of the overall population. There is a significant difference. I do expect our populations to rebound. However, it may be later than sooner, once the comodity prices change the income dynamic we currently have.
 
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