28 guage

birddude said:
That's what I shot when they were affordable! But my humble opinion is with a 28 or 2 3/4 20 does not have enough shot for WILD pheasant unless you only take birds that flush at your feet. Years ago, I bought a 1100 special field 20. Practiced all summer and shot it well. Took it to Iowa and made a fool of myself. Knocked a lot down didn't bring very many home. I used my ugy 28 mod and full for years for wild quail and grouse. Shot many, many cases of above shells through it. It served me well, but I can say with confidence that it was barely big enough for them. The 16 is a wonderful gun, it will clobber a Phez within it's range with the heaviest loads but will not drop them with the authority as a 12. Wild phez are a 12-gauge bird!
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Birddude - hope you are doing well. I have been very successful with my 20's on wild birds in Iowa, Nebraska and SD.
 
Goosemaster said:
Yeah, I really hate to leave UT, but may have to.I have a sweet 16, old one.
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Save the 28 gauge for dove hunts.

Maybe the one exception is when you put on a sport coat and nice polo shirt in order to sneak your dog into a hotel. In that case, toting a 28 gauge up to your room fits the part a little better. And no pbr, it better be Stella artois, or better yet a high brow bottle of wine from the south of France.
 
Bob Peters said:
Save the 28 gauge for dove hunts.

Maybe the one exception is when you put on a sport coat and nice polo shirt in order to sneak your dog into a hotel. In that case, toting a 28 gauge up to your room fits the part a little better. And no pbr, it better be Stella artois, or better yet a high brow bottle of wine from the south of France.
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Haha.I actually have done it a few times, but it gets more difficult every year.They rip you off in the first place with rates,and then they charge dog rate!!
 
Goosemaster said:
Haha Dumping mud is always held in high regard in Montana!U have been shooting lead,1 oz. 5 shot.The shells are around 20 dollars per box.The thing is, I'm so used to the 16 guage now,if I take that shot with the 28,I loose the bird.I hate loosing wounded birds,but it happens to everyone in thick cover.Im 63, and I like a lite gun these days.I may take the 870 12 with the sling on it,it's my turkey gun.
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Doesn’t your 16 have a full choke?!?
 
Goosemaster said:
Yeah, I really hate to leave UT, but may have to.I have a sweet 16, old one.
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Here's how we solve two of your problems at one time. You either take some shooting lessons with your 28, or you carry your 12 gauge remington loaded with magnums. In the meantime you give your sweet 16 to golden hour.

This way we don't have to hear you complain about losing birds with the pea shooter, nor do we have to hear it from you how GH hunts with an ugly gun.
 
Bob Peters said:
Here's how we solve two of your problems at one time. You either take some shooting lessons with your 28, or you carry your 12 gauge remington loaded with magnums. In the meantime you give your sweet 16 to golden hour.

This way we don't have to hear you complain about losing birds with the pea shooter, nor do we have to hear it from you how GH hunts with an ugly gun.
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Fantastic solution! I've been telling that guy those 1-1/4 oz Howitzer loads he shoots are big time overkill. A classy 16 is just what he needs to refine & complete his overall hunting package.
 
IF you can find a trap range that has a Garmin Xero S1 Trapshooting trainer and IF that range has someone that understands how to use the Garmin, you can dial your gun in pretty quickly.

Set up the Garmin on Station 3@16 yards. Set the trap to throw straightaways. Use a full choke in the gun. Shoot 10 straight aways.

The Garmin will tell you where the center of the shot pattern is in relation to the bird. If most or all of your shots are in the same place from the bird (like low or high), from there it is just a matter of adjustment. The general rule for adjusting the rear sight (your EYE) on a shotgun is to move it in the direction you want your pattern to move.

If you are consistently shooting low, your gun has too much drop for you. High? Not enough drop. If your gun is shimmable, these are easy fixes. If not, there are other methods. Same with left/right.

After the adjustments, shoot 5 more. Rinse/repeat until it is shooting where you look. I've done this for people and it rarely took more than a box of shells.

Again, YMMV.
 
Bob Peters said:
Here's how we solve two of your problems at one time. You either take some shooting lessons with your 28, or you carry your 12 gauge remington loaded with magnums. In the meantime you give your sweet 16 to golden hour.

This way we don't have to hear you complain about losing birds with the pea shooter, nor do we have to hear it from you how GH hunts with an ugly gun.
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Yeah he needs a pre 1960 Browning. I also have a camo 870 yhat I use, mine has a sling.It was willed to me by a good friend, so I use it some.If you are going to take a pheasant, you need to use a beautiful gun.
 
Bob Peters said:
Here's how we solve two of your problems at one time. You either take some shooting lessons with your 28, or you carry your 12 gauge remington loaded with magnums. In the meantime you give your sweet 16 to golden hour.

This way we don't have to hear you complain about losing birds with the pea shooter, nor do we have to hear it from you how GH hunts with an ugly gun.
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Chessie 67 said:
Winchester has come out with an 1 1/8 oz of copper plated lead in their Super Pheasant line. Super spendy, but you gotta love the 1 1/8 # 5 combo with copper plated shot. Also, Fiocchi has an 1 1/16 load you can get in 5’s or 6 shot. Brought some cardboard home from work yesterday and will pattern them this weekend.
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Today I put shot to cardboard and was fairly impressed with results. I patterned Winchester Super Pheasant 28 gauge copper plated shot #5, 1 1/8 oz of shot. I shot it out of my Rizzini Aurum with 30” barrels, back bored with the forcing cones lengthened and Briley choke tubes installed. All shots were from 35 yards, the results were from a 2 shot average in a post scribed 30” circle. Both shots from each choke were really close in pellet count. Skeet choke averaged 134 pellets or 70%. IC choke averaged 163 pellets or 85%. LM choke averaged 165 pellets or 86%. Mod choke averaged 192 pellets or 100%. IM choke averaged 194 pellets. I did not open up a shell to count the pellets, but a chart that I looked up stated that there should be 191 pellets in 1 1/8 oz of #5 shot. I also patterned FIOCCHI golden pheasant 1 1/16 #6 nickel plated shot. Skeet choke yielded 183 pellets and IC yielded 215 out of a possible 235 pellets.
I’m going to give the IC and Mod combination a chance this fall. I feel like anything inside of 35 yards should drop if the gun is pointed in the right direction.
 
Chessie 67 said:
Today I put shot to cardboard and was fairly impressed with results. I patterned Winchester Super Pheasant 28 gauge copper plated shot #5, 1 1/8 oz of shot. I shot it out of my Rizzini Aurum with 30” barrels, back bored with the forcing cones lengthened and Briley choke tubes installed. All shots were from 35 yards, the results were from a 2 shot average in a post scribed 30” circle. Both shots from each choke were really close in pellet count. Skeet choke averaged 134 pellets or 70%. IC choke averaged 163 pellets or 85%. LM choke averaged 165 pellets or 86%. Mod choke averaged 192 pellets or 100%. IM choke averaged 194 pellets. I did not open up a shell to count the pellets, but a chart that I looked up stated that there should be 191 pellets in 1 1/8 oz of #5 shot. I also patterned FIOCCHI golden pheasant 1 1/16 #6 nickel plated shot. Skeet choke yielded 183 pellets and IC yielded 215 out of a possible 235 pellets.
I’m going to give the IC and Mod combination a chance this fall. I feel like anything inside of 35 yards should drop if the gun is pointed in the right direction.
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Well all I know is my 28 is a pea shooter.
 
Bob Peters said:
I'm taking a bunch of buddies, all our suburbans and dog trailers out to Hiliger Montana. Will a 28 be enough gun to hunt the hi-line? All our guns look just like the one golden hour shoots, except 28 gauges. We promise not to pay to hunt, and we only drink Hamm's.
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Haha except Hilger is in central Montana.Drinking the sky blue water.😆😆
 
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