12 guage or 16 guage?

If it is an older 16 (like I have), try some of the HeviShot Classic
Double shells. They are designed for vintage shotguns.
 
To those of you that own a 12,16 and a 20 - can you tell the difference in recoil, assuming the same shell is used?

And, is there much weight difference between a 12 and 16 ga?

Just curious!
 
weight and stuff

There can be great differences in weight. For example I've owned Fox shotguns in both 12 and 16 gauge. The 16's are typically 6-1/4 to 6-1/2 pounds whereas 12's are seldom under 7 pounds. The recoil can be significant in a 16 if you choose to shoot magnums which are 1-1/4 ounce loads.
 
The recoil comparison using the same load in a 12/16/20 is merely a function of physics. If the 16 is ~10% lighter (6.25lb 16ga versus 7.00lb 12ga), the recoil will be 10% larger. If one gun has a recoil pad, and, the other doesn't, actual mileage will vary.

"Felt recoil" is more of a subjective thing. My Citori Superlight 16 weights 5.75 llbs, and, hammers me on the clay range, even with 7/8 oz loads.

On pheasants, I never notice it, even with 1 1/8 or 1 1/4 oz loads.
 
I shoot all 3 (12/16/20) and don't notice the recoil as much in the field compared to shooting a round of clays/skeet. However, even though all 3 weigh 7lbs, the 12 Ga Maxus recoils the least even with some HV loads, followed by the Citori 16 and then the Citori 20.

I finished my season in ND this weekend using the Citori 16 and the Federal Wing-Shok 1 1/8 oz. #4 load at 1425 fps, and it worked well. Although I thought this Citori with no recoil pad would kick hard with that fast load, it seemed no worse than the Citori 20 using 3" Win Super Pheasant loads at 1250 fps.

Of course, hunting in frigid winter temps with heavy clothing DOES dampen that recoil effect to some degree. What is worse though, is having to now fix all of the "scratches" on that great Gran Lightning wood.....
 
There can be great differences in weight. For example I've owned Fox shotguns in both 12 and 16 gauge. The 16's are typically 6-1/4 to 6-1/2 pounds whereas 12's are seldom under 7 pounds. The recoil can be significant in a 16 if you choose to shoot magnums which are 1-1/4 ounce loads.
My 16's are an AYA #2 Roundbody and a Uggie boxlock. Both 28" and English stock of course. The size weight and swing on these guns is perfect FOR ME. They also carry effortlessly for me in the field, not just because they are light, but so well balanced. I also shoot the 20ga American Arms Derby which only has 26' barrels, and I will sometimes swing by a bird.
Federal makes the only 16 "mag" 1- 1/4 load I know of and they cost in excess of $35 at Cabela's. I have not shot them. Shot 9 birds my last three hunts, all 16ga, all stone dead, all 1& 1/8th.
 
My 16's are an AYA #2 Roundbody and a Uggie boxlock. Both 28" and English stock of course. The size weight and swing on these guns is perfect FOR ME. They also carry effortlessly for me in the field, not just because they are light, but so well balanced. I also shoot the 20ga American Arms Derby which only has 26' barrels, and I will sometimes swing by a bird.
Federal makes the only 16 "mag" 1- 1/4 load I know of and they cost in excess of $35 at Cabela's. I have not shot them. Shot 9 birds my last three hunts, all 16ga, all stone dead, all 1& 1/8th.

I been looking at some 28ga AyA 453's. They are a fine gun that never seems to carry extra bulk. Scaled to the gauge.
 
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