100 Years Old

I was just thinking, the Winchester Model 12 is 100 years old. With all the changes in technology, it does the job just as well today as then. That's something!

Lock and Load! :D
 
They are fine shooters! But thats not all; Got it beat with a 97 Winchester;)
Here is my son with my granddads ol 12 bore still shooting and making meat in Kansas with the 4th generation of my family.
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Winchester made some FINE guns in the day!

BobM
 
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The model 12 yes a great gun. My grand dad loved winchesters. In the 50s and 60s he was a bird hunter and I hear he had two great american water spanials. Thank god my father found a intrest in it too cause thats the only thing they had in common. My grand dad died when I was 10 and left his winchesters to me skipping my father. I am lucky enough to have a 12 two 16s a 1906 22 pump and my favorite is a model 42 410 pump all great shooters I love taking them to the trap shooting range and watching the old timers look at them.
 
Those winchesters are pups! I still make music with Parkers, Bakers, and Lefevers, made from 1882-1989. Still grand, can't buy quality like that, I own a couple of winchesters too!
 
Old guns sure tend to stay fully-functional longer than do old hunters . . . reckon that I should have been born a shotgun.
 
BobM- Awesome 97!! I need to take grandpa's out this year.
I just couldn't resist joining in this great thread! Couple pics for you guys.

The first was last Feb at "The Bluffs" out east of Denver. I'm not one to frequent pay to play type establishments (although they're a great time and great for dogs) but a friend of mine had a membership there so we went out the morning after a good blizzard. I thought it would be a great opportunity to let the 'ole Model 42 Full do some work. 3" 6's did the trick on their "augmented", "wild" bird population.
The second pic was last year on a great day with Merle (my GWP) and my Model 12, 12 Full. It's my go to gun and gets more use than any other, (although I have a feeling the new A-5 Sweet Sixteen might take the number #1 spot in the batting order this year!)

Anyways, to me, the Model 12 is the king of all shotguns and always will be.

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I still have scarred wound on my thumb from a Model 97. Gun requires a lot of resolve for an 10 year old, it was a WW1 riot gun, I've I got of a shot off, something went down, brush, or bird. Even 3-1-8's seem kick like a mule. I like those old paper shot loads, some black powder loaded, I go back again, I worked the action at home tiredlessly, because I liked to hear it, and feel that "real gun" feel. Heady stuff for a kid.
 
I have a model 97 that is fun to shoot, 3 model 12 that I really like, one a trap gun has a beautiful stock.
It is kind of funny but some years back I bought a started pup from a kennel in Missouri, the owner took me out for a hunt to show me how my pup worked birds, well I bought this model 12, 20 gage just shortly before and had not shot it yet, well pup point a couple quails, I drop one pump the gun and the shells doesn't come all the way out, I pull the shell out which wasn't east to do,next flush the same thing happens with the same results. The owner of the place tells me I had better take and clean it as ole model 12s are great guns, must just be dirty. Well we finish up the day and I take off to meet my hunting buddies for a hunt in Iowa when they still had some birds. I of course brought my regular phez gun at the time a model 12, 12 gauge, to make the story short I cleaned the gun and took it out back off the cabin to try it after I cleaned it well, still same problem, took it to a gunsmith there in town to find out the gun was made in 1914 and was not a 2 3/4 chamber but a shorter chamber. I really like the little gun and would like to shoot it, I hear I can reload shorter shells as I do not want to have it rechambered so guess I had better look into reloading shorter shells for it.
 
By 2 1/2" 12's from RST or Poly wad. My first 870, said on the barrel, " use with 2 1/2" or 2 3/4" shells ONLY". I am sure your Winchester will fire them. It is probably able to handle 2 3/4", in a rolled crimp shell as well. RST makes both. I use 1 oz. of copper shot in my old double 12's, my girls use 7/8th ounce of that same in 20's. They are premium shells, low recoil, low PSI, 4800-8000, velocity around 1100-1200 FPS. You will never go back!
 
What's a nice Model 12 worth these days? One that's been refinished. I saw one that had a 26" barrel choked Mod. with a Simmons vent rib that looked quite nice.
 
To purchase a good field Win. Model 12, expect to pay 300 to maybe 650 depending on condition. Other grades can be and are more. Great guns--I think we have about 16 of them in the family.
 
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