Lots of hunters

Goosemaster said:
To be brutally honest, these video guys, and the internet, are what's putting a lot of out-of-state hunters into different states.
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I don't watch a ton of videos. Are there a lot of people showing Montana pheasant hunting? The ones I have seen are mainly SD.
 
I would be nervous hunting pheasants in the part of Montana near the mountains. I read in a book where the guys dog ran into a thick cattail bottom and a grizzly bear ran out the other side. Might have been John Barsness(sp).
 
Haretrigger said:
And here I thought building houses was an honorable profession.....
most houses also need a road in order to arrive at front door....
Goose...what am I missing ? Would you be so kind to put it in plain engish....your speaking in tongues has me all tied up..
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What do you guys do, is they fancy 50 acres, then they will build a road around it for side-by-side ATVs. Then these guys will come out, and pay big money to hunt this place, and stay in these little houses. It's a big operation and I'm I'm against this type of thing, I'm against pay hunting in general.
 
Chatting with a couple farmers in SD a week ago, they mentioned corn was guaranteed at a bit over $3/bushel in 1979; not too far from that price now, 46 years later. I suspect input costs are up 5x, 8x, or higher. Land is at least 20x higher, probably more. I don’t care how or why ground is in habitat, I’m just glad it isn’t being farmed fence to fence (actually they’re ripping fences out, along with tree belts, sloughs, etc), or being developed, etc. If someone chooses to leave it in habitat, or create new habitat, thank god. Hosting pay hunters? Great! That habitat is a good thing. Oh, one of those farmers I was chatting with is 64, not sure what his health insurance costs him this year, but last year it was $3,000/month…him and his wife. Not counting all the ancillary costs for meds, Dr appts, etc. That’s just one expense, not even farming related. If they’re lucky, really lucky, they’ll have 180 bushel corn…they might gross $600/acre….rent is $180-$225 (many pay more)…seed is $100…fertilizer? Pesticides? Fuel? Cost of combines? Planters? Sprayers? Semi’s? Grain bins? Tractors? They’re losing $, same on beans. Just reality, at the moment. Cattle are profitable, at least pasture has some positive benefits. Habitat is good, regardless…IMO.
 
benelli-banger said:
Chatting with a couple farmers in SD a week ago, they mentioned corn was guaranteed at a bit over $3/bushel in 1979; not too far from that price now, 46 years later. I suspect input costs are up 5x, 8x, or higher. Land is at least 20x higher, probably more. I don’t care how or why ground is in habitat, I’m just glad it isn’t being farmed fence to fence (actually they’re ripping fences out, along with tree belts, sloughs, etc), or being developed, etc. If someone chooses to leave it in habitat, or create new habitat, thank god. Hosting pay hunters? Great! That habitat is a good thing. Oh, one of those farmers I was chatting with is 64, not sure what his health insurance costs him this year, but last year it was $3,000/month…him and his wife. Not counting all the ancillary costs for meds, Dr appts, etc. That’s just one expense, not even farming related. If they’re lucky, really lucky, they’ll have 180 bushel corn…they might gross $600/acre….rent is $180-$225 (many pay more)…seed is $100…fertilizer? Pesticides? Fuel? Cost of combines? Planters? Sprayers? Semi’s? Grain bins? Tractors? They’re losing $, same on beans. Just reality, at the moment. Cattle are profitable, at least pasture has some positive benefits. Habitat is good, regardless…IMO.
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The pasture is a good point, even when grazed to oblivion it's more habitat than a plowed or sprayed field. In our area of Kansas and I suspect Midwest wide you might start seeing some of this marginal crop ground going back to pasture with the record cattle market and no softening in sight. When 1 fat steer is worth an entire semi full of corn, guys are going to start pulling the rolls of barb wire out of the sheds I think.
 
Goosemaster said:
I can't figure out why montana has so many bird hunters the last 3 years.Any comments?
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Montana is not South Dakota, there are large sections of Montana where you will not see a pheasant or a sharp tail. Those guys from Iowa that I met in that real remote spot, had to have been using the internet to find that place. I put those two guys onto a good spot that was actually block management, but in a very remote area. Those guys went in there and really messed things up, and left a lot of birds. Maybe I shouldn't have told those guys about that spot, they were deer hunters actually.
 
Luckily, I still have some private ranches that I can hunt. Really good guys that don't charge money, I usually leave them a ham or a 12 pack of Old Milwaukee. Sometimes I don't leave them anything.
 
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