Corner crossings

Each state has its own laws and regulations. Like I said above. Go for it get a ticket and go to court. The WY case should be a great precedent for your attorney
 
Been a while since I listened to the Meateater podcasts on this with the lawyers legal explanation, so this might not be perfect, but close-

My understanding was that it wasn’t actually illegal, there were no laws in the books saying “thou shall not corner cross”. Which is why the Missouri hunters did it in the first place.

It’s always kind of been a “frowned upon practice”. When they did it, the sheriff/game warden didn’t write tickets because they had nothing to actually cite.
 
Wind River said:
Goose, do you still have that swamp land I sold you last year? Did the taxes go up?
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As far as I'm concerned, if you need to cross a few acres of private land to get to a huge chunk of public land, go ahead and do it, do it quickly, you're good to go. These guys are nowhere near where you are. They're probably hundreds of miles away.
 
2point said:
How could you own the air space above your land. If you own land by an airport and you got tired of planes coming over you could make the airport change the runways so they dont go over your air space. WTF If you dont touch their property, I say you are good. I suppose now they will put razor wire on their corners.
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You do not own the land within 20 ft of your fence.
 
Goosemaster said:
As far as I'm concerned, if you need to cross a few acres of private land to get to a huge chunk of public land, go ahead and do it, do it quickly, you're good to go. These guys are nowhere near where you are. They're probably hundreds of miles away.
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This is just about the worst advice you've ever offered here. And we all know a lot of what you spew is nonsense goose. Hunters like you who trespass and openly admit to it give the rest of us law-abiding hunters a bad rap.

Openly advising someone to trespass could get you in serious legal trouble.

My advice is to respect private land and stay off of it unless you have permission to be there. One of these times a disgruntled land owner is gonna take matters into his own hands and either you or your dog are going to experience some serious consequences.

As far as the landowner erecting a higher fence/posts on the corner, they certainly could do it. Then the public trying to corner cross would have to build a bigger ladder or similar contraption. It might end up that way to be honest. Just an arms race on the entry point, if you will.
 
matto said:
IMO...

You're right that it's about airspace, from a legal point of view. But not really. He wouldn't be suing if people were holding their arms over the edge of the road easement. It's about keeping the public out of corner-locked public land.
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This and only this. Landowners have teamed together on this. This isnt about their land being trespassed on (and it wasnt). It’s about THEIR deer/elk/whatever that is on thousands of acres of public land that they think is theirs. Id like to know how many out of the entire state sell rights to their land, and then collect even though someone shoots an animal on private. Then, im sure that paid hunt becomes a “trespass fee” to access public ground because a paid/guided hunt on public is illegal, at least in this state. Its all about greed.
 
gim said:
This is just about the worst advice you've ever offered here. And we all know a lot of what you spew is nonsense goose. Hunters like you who trespass and openly admit to it give the rest of us law-abiding hunters a bad rap.

Openly advising someone to trespass could get you in serious legal trouble.
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I remain perplexed as to why he's still allowed to post on here. I would have banned him for good long ago, and advocating for trespassing would have made the decision even easier. A person could draw up a long list of illegal and unethical things he does or recommends. He takes care of himself first and foremost; screw the landowner, screw the resource.
 
2point said:
Huh? You own your land to the property line, you might have to allow easements for power lines, road right aways. It is still your land.
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MTbirddogs said:
I remain perplexed as to why he's still allowed to post on here. I would have banned him for good long ago, and advocating for trespassing would have made the decision even easier. A person could draw up a long list of illegal and unethical things he does or recommends. He takes care of himself first and foremost; screw the landowner, screw the resource.
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All I said was, you're 1 acre should not keep me from accessing 10,000 acres.
 
Here's the thing that gets me. In South Dakota, at least, if you buy a piece of land and it's surrounded by other people's land and has no road to it. The neighboring landowners have to let you cross their land to get access to yours. How is it that that law doesn't apply to public land as well. Since we all technically own it.
 
MTbirddogs said:
I remain perplexed as to why he's still allowed to post on here. I would have banned him for good long ago, and advocating for trespassing would have made the decision even easier. A person could draw up a long list of illegal and unethical things he does or recommends. He takes care of himself first and foremost; screw the landowner, screw the resource.
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Nah, takes all kinds. Anyone who is influenced to trespass based on one person’s views is going to trespass anyway.

My opinion only.
 
BigRand said:
Here's the thing that gets me. In South Dakota, at least, if you buy a piece of land and it's surrounded by other people's land and has no road to it. The neighboring landowners have to let you cross their land to get access to yours. How is it that that law doesn't apply to public land as well. Since we all technically own it.
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The WY Federal land checkerboard was a "cluster" from the beginning. It should not have been set up that way.

The only real answer on access is EASEMENTS.

If you purchase any private land that is not bound by a road, legal public section line, etc... you better have an easement onto your property. Never assume that you will have access across another person's private land for perpetuity without a legal documented easement!

There are quite a few MN WMAs that have a 1/4 or 1/2 mile easement trail allowing you to walk onto the property. I have seen a couple of Federal WPAs in ND that have an easement trail onto the property. These are all well signed and usually documented on maps - the ones that I have seen.

That said, I am aware of a few landlocked WMA parcels that are surrounded by posted private land with no published or signed easements and other properties are land locked except for a spot where you would need to corner hop (Bob's original point). One would ask even if the land was donated to the MN DNR free of charge ... why would they accept any landlocked parcel into their property list without first obtaining an easement?

County tax forfeited land is a bit of a different story ... county may not care if the land is landlocked or not ... the property (often worthless from a financial return status) just sits there under county ownership because someone failed to pay taxes. I have seen in Minnesota where counties get a temporary easement on a neighboring private land to harvest timber but that easement is not for anyone but the logger and fades away after the clear cut is done.
 
Goosemaster said:
All I said was, you're 1 acre should not keep me from accessing 10,000 acres.
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What does that have to do with you saying you dont own the land 20 feet from your fence???? So my buddy has a fence down the middle of his property, has he lost 40 feet or 20 feet of his land. Does fence mean property line to you?? Total nonsense and gibirish. I wish you could put coherent sentences together so we had something to try to follow. Thumbs down

Also saying trespassing isnt wrong is why a lot of landowners on the fence, no pun intended, don't let the honest guys on. So many times I ask and they say I really would not mind just you and your dog on, but I just can't, I have been burned too many times. I tell them I don't blame you. Thanks. Double thumbs down to trespassers
 
2point said:
What does that have to do with you saying you dont own the land 20 feet from your fence???? So my buddy has a fence down the middle of his property, has he lost 40 feet or 20 feet of his land. Does fence mean property line to you?? Total nonsense and gibirish. I wish you could put coherent sentences together so we had something to try to follow. Thumbs down

Also saying trespassing isnt wrong is why a lot of landowners on the fence, no pun intended, don't let the honest guys on. So many times I ask and they say I really would not mind just you and your dog on, but I just can't, I have been burned too many times. I tell them I don't blame you. Thanks. Double thumbs down to trespassers
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They don't let people on their land, because they want to profit from their land by charging people to hunt. A lot of landowners don't even live in the same state where they own property. I was wrong about the 20-ft rule, I will admit to that.
 
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