You must've only shot about 3 phez with it since EVERY!! pheasant hunter gets some crips.6 shot and 5 later in the year. If I’m somewhere that I have to shoot non toxic I shoot 3 inch number 3’s. That knocks there you know what in the dirt. Never seen a cripple with it.
I would bet lunch, and I'm not much of a betting man, some of those birds you "missed" were leaving with shot in them. Don't know how you can go without losing a cripple now and then. I hate when it happens but it happens regardless of the load or shot you use. They are tough tough birds.shot and 5 later in the year. If I’m somewhere that I have to shoot non toxic I shoot 3 inch number 3’s. That knocks there you know what in the dirt. Never seen a cripple with it.
One thing about a full choke.Clean misses.I like that. If I miss, I want to completely miss.It's a sad day when now a cheap box of shells is $12. I remember when.......... Times have certainly changed and lately it seems like time is at warp speed.
I would bet lunch, and I'm not much of a betting man, some of those birds you "missed" were leaving with shot in them. Don't know how you can go without losing a cripple now and then. I hate when it happens but it happens regardless of the load or shot you use. They are tough tough birds.
Oh no doubt. But those number 3 steels in 3 inch are probably the best all round shell you can shoot. I shoot them on mallards and canada geese over decoys. If I pull up with those on a phez 9.5 times outa 10 they are DRT. I also don’t take questionable shots either so that helps.It's a sad day when now a cheap box of shells is $12. I remember when.......... Times have certainly changed and lately it seems like time is at warp speed.
I would bet lunch, and I'm not much of a betting man, some of those birds you "missed" were leaving with shot in them. Don't know how you can go without losing a cripple now and then. I hate when it happens but it happens regardless of the load or shot you use. They are tough tough birds.
Don’t take questionable shots period. I shoot mallards and canada geese with it over decoys. Shoot an improved cylinder with it. They pattern very well. When I shoot mallards up close like in timber I like #6 steel through a modified choke. Dense patterns and head/neck shots within 35 yards. The guys I hunt with shoot 20’s on all ducks and geese.You must've only shot about 3 phez with it since EVERY!! pheasant hunter gets some crips.![]()
You gotta be a awesome shot to be offering lessons, can't help noticing all your talk is about ducks/geese that mostly fall on the ground & stay wear they fell. I still say you're "never seen a cripple" with your 3 inch no tox shells is bull unless you only shot a few phez with it. Everyone gets cripples even with 3"ers which you don't need for phez. But guys like you use big shells & drive big trucks.If you wanna lesson on killing birds meet me and the boys on the colorado eastern slope this winter and they can put on a clinic for you with 20 guages shooting late season mallards and canada geese. Pheasants aren’t that tough.
I'd disagree on that. I've absolutely hammered pheasants within 20 yards, puff of feathers flying, appear to drop stone dead and nowhere to be found. Without the dog, I'd have lost numerous birds that I would have told you I turned to swiss cheese.Pheasants aren’t that tough. What makes them tough are guys taking shots to far away, not being able to judge distance, improper lead, and never ever patterning their guns in the off season with various shot sizes through diff choke tubes.
Lol that aint hard here. In fact, its very easy. Geese are a nuisance and most landowners I know want them dead. The problem is what to do with them after you shoot them...Hardest part of a great goose shoot is getting permission on a hot field.
Oh yeah public land is long shots.It isn't that I don't think you can properly fold up a rooster beyond that range, because obviously you can. I think there are a fair number of hunters here that are after highly pressured public land birds and if they didn't take long shots they would rarely shoot their gun. That is not the situation I find myself in when I'm hunting though.