Wrong Soil Type for Pheasants in Missouri

Has anyone else heard about the soil type in Missouri not containing enough Calcium to keep pheasants around? With the low calcium the eggs that the pheasants lay aren’t hard enough to hold the weight of the pheasant itself during incubation. I have heard this several times before and just curious if anyone knows if there is fact behind this or if it’s just an old wife’s tale.
 
One of a long list of possible explanations for lack of pheasant expansion. Usually listed along with high humidity during the nesting season, or high tempuratures during the brooding period. All may be factors, who knows, even in the best years missouri pheasants limited to the northern tier or two of counties, and St. Charles, co., Have remnant population of Korean Jungle pheasants in the southeast. When I was a kid in the 60's kansas spent a lot of time and energy trying to establish both Golden and Ringneck Pheasants, maybe others in southeast kansas to no avail. At the time the quail hunting there was second to none. So had to be some limiting factor beyond habitat. I will say that pheasants persist in huntable numbers in areas like Baja California, and the Texas gulf coast, so there must be something beyond the usual suspects that causes the absence. look at south west, Iowa, used to be pheasant heaven, now limited numbers. A lot of research has been done without much headway. Missouri's last stocking done with wild transplant birds in the eighties, dismal failure.
 
Has anyone else heard about the soil type in Missouri not containing enough Calcium to keep pheasants around? With the low calcium the eggs that the pheasants lay aren’t hard enough to hold the weight of the pheasant itself during incubation. I have heard this several times before and just curious if anyone knows if there is fact behind this or if it’s just an old wife’s tale.

All of the data on the pheasant range and calcium, humidity and temperatures are based on old 70 year old data and theories, its all theory.

I have been keeping up with the wild North American pheasant range for a long time. Look at some of my previous threads on the subject.

Lets start off with areas where wild pheasants are now (2010) and where they were absent 40 years ago, in areas where they were told it was too hot, too much humidity and not enough calcium.

Truly wild pheasants don't obey man made precepts. Wild pheasants out of Kansas are expanding southward down the Arkansas river (they naturally follow water corridors) they did not stop at the Kansas borded, they have expanded deep into Oklahoma over the last 40 years and wild pheasants are seen all the way down to Perry, Stillwater, Keystone Lake and wild birds are seen south of Kingfisher and a few over around Sweetwater. If wild pheasants can expand along the trees and creeks along the Arkansas river they can eventually expand in southeast Kansas.

On the Texas side the range is also expanding southward, people around Wheeler, Texas are seeing wild pheasants. Thirty years ago they were told that was not pheasant country. I could go on about many other areas all around Lubbock.
It was hot and humid this summer in all of these areas yet chick pheasants hatched, the key is not grain its nesting cover moisture and timely summer rain.

So how did these theories get started years ago, in my opinion, people would release thousands of fat tame pen-raised pheasants, predators would get fat eating them up, with no sign of the birds at all a year later, they would therefore assume that the pheasants did not survive because of calcium, humidity or high temperatures.
It was really pheasant country all the time they just did not have a wild and alert pheasant smart enough to get away from the predators long enough to reproduce. See articles below on trapping wild pheasants:

http://www.timesleader.com/sports/Rebirth_of_a_game_bird_07-18-2010.html

Read what PGC biologist Coleen DeLong said about the rooster to hen ratio in getting wild pheasants reestablished, a one rooster to one hen ratio is needed in the predator infested real wild wild world. In the spring time wild roosters guard and protect the hens when they are feeding:

http://republicanherald.com/wpra-s-why-change-success-1.872457



This theory was first proposed in the 1930's when pheasants became established in Iowa but not as fast in Missouri . This was based on calcium and lime in old glacier areas. If that theory were true now 2010 we should have an enormous population increase in those areas( Iowa) and no pheasants are all S.W. Kansas or the Texas panhandle.
If calcium for egg theory is true wild turkey and wild quail would not hatch in Florida.

That heat high humidity theory is also 60 years old. I am running out of time I will post again with some solutions needed to expand the wild North American pheasant range. If you "Google Earth" and look down on North America, there is a lot of room for the expansion of the wild pheasant range.
We need to reduce some of the pheasant hunting crowding in W. Kansas, on opening weekend.
 
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soil calcium /pheasant populations

Here in North central Illinois the Pheasant population continues to dwindle and the only theory I can come up with is soil depletion of calcium(Ca) due to NPK farming practices. Most in my area would like to blame wily coyote for the birds demise while others point out that habitat destruction is the real reason. Perhaps both play a small role but the trend I have been seeing with the ever increasing monoculture farming practice is high rate applications of phosphorus and nitrogen causing a lower soil Ph. Application of lime brings the Ph back up but does not correct the calcium imbalance due to excess phosphorus in the soil. There have been several studies showing pheasant distribution is directly correlated to soil calcium. Read egg shell development--no species can long survive without reproduction capabilities.
 
Yes, the range of the ring-necked pheasant closely corresponds to the lime (calcium)-rich soils in the central part of the country. But, having spent uite a bit of time in Illinois, you could put all the lime in the world out there on that soil and you still wouldn't have many pheasants. There just is not very much habitat. Corn and soybean fields are not habitat; they are temporary, seasonal food sources that can provide marginal cover when the crops are standing. The farming practices in much of the Midwest do not leave much permanent winter or spring cover for nesting and winter carry over.
 
As stated above, there are exceptions given the expansion of the range, but much of that expansion is along natural water courses, where there is a brushy woodya permanent cover, I.e. habitat. Pheasants don't "need" corn; they need permanent habitat.
 
I really don't see that calcium could be that much of an issue. All egg layers need calcium and we've got lots of various egg layers that are doing quite well. Think turkeys!
 
...Read what PGC biologist Coleen DeLong said about the rooster to hen ratio in getting wild pheasants reestablished, a one rooster to one hen ratio is needed in the predator infested real wild wild world. In the spring time wild roosters guard and protect the hens when they are feeding....

One might consider the success the pheasant has enjoyed in the Keystone state since farming practices, as but one issue, have changed when citing PGC opinions re the ring-necked pheasant.

As with most game issues there is never a single black hat.
And, some caps deemed not worthy of interest at a point in time turn black very quickly as any game population slides down a decline curve.
The real problem is not limited to only old data, wivestales or black hats but rather it is the unwillingness to consider either outside the box or past our own particular interests.

For any grand new pheasant golden age, which I do not foresee, one also needs a focusing away from the present glamour species ie the deer as #1, an influx of predictable lucre into treasuries and a far, far different trend toward public access by young Joe Hunter.
"There ain't no light, Minnie, there just ain't no light."
 
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Has anyone else heard about the soil type in Missouri not containing enough Calcium to keep pheasants around? With the low calcium the eggs that the pheasants lay aren’t hard enough to hold the weight of the pheasant itself during incubation. I have heard this several times before and just curious if anyone knows if there is fact behind this or if it’s just an old wife’s tale.

I have property out in S E Iowa, 3 miles north of your border, and I heard the same thing from the guys in P F. First year I hunted the place ("02) I saw one bird. Next year I saw 20 birds. They tell me the pheasnt numbers have never been great down there, that it is more quail country, and that's what I should focus on when planting. Actually the area is more deer and turkey country when you drive around and scout. If the calcium isue is the reason for poor pheasant numbers in an area, wouldn't it be true for all ground nesting birds, including quail and turkey? I wouldn't mind focusing on the quail, but I've seen all the management practices performed on 3600 acres of state ground nearby year after year. The handful of times I hunted this area I've seen 1, yes 1 quail. I've seen more on my neighbors and mine with minimal disturbance.
 
this may seem like way out there i have no idea myself but a guy told me fleas had to do with why there not south of the river along with the soil obviously anyone heard of this?
 
No fleas found on my dogs in ten years of hittin the fields in S E Iowa. Don't buy that one. Ticks? That's another story...
 
this may seem like way out there i have no idea myself but a guy told me fleas had to do with why there not south of the river along with the soil obviously anyone heard of this?

I have heard mites might be a cause. I will tell you, they had multi-year effort to foster a population of pheasants in SE Kansas, different breeds, even crossbreds, different stocking cycles, all to no-avail, petered down to remnant survivors. All the time in the 60's there were scads of quail. Even good populations of prairie chickens. Thoughts include humidity, nesting cover, mites, which include the soil composition, there is less minerals in the soil that is present in higher pheasant populations, like diatematious earth, boron, talc, maybe have an affect. Truth is that ground was not good for large scale alfalfa production, or corn production, pheasants sure can survive without either. Truth is we should have been protecting quail, the last 50 years in SW Mo. and SE Kansas. Truth is as Preston said, the science on pheasants is 50 years out of date, and nobody knows the truth! One of the mysterys of live, if you know it all, it would not any fun! By the way one county which comes in on surveys for pheasants is Cass, reported by surveys. I'm not sure I believe it! they are a long way from any population.
 
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the reason cass maybe is because lots of prserve birds? thats the county i live in and lots of preserve birds get loose? heres another one to think about why are pheasants in the bootheel and just mostly in nw mo whats the limit in the bootheel one ?i have driven through the boothell looks like pheasant land and i have talked to farmers there they say there is a few there
 
That preserve birds is a good explanation! Hadn't thought above that, but it seems a likely explanation. There are a high quality population in St Charles county, if you can find access!
 
When we have company meeting I poll my coworkers from all over the country about wild pheasant sightings. A guy from Harrisonville, Mo. (Cass county) said that he saw wild pheasants in the field near his home.

Missouri DNR released thousands of Korean ring-necked pheasants in the 70's. Those pheasants were F1 wild gene directly from the wild bush, wary and alert. The Korean ring-necked pheasants are almost identical to a wild Kansas ringneck.
See article below:
www.jstor.org/stable/10.2307/3799981



The Missouri DNR also wild trapped wild pheasants and released them in many parts of the state. See article below table 5:
"Wildlife Harvest and Population status Report Ring-Necked Pheasant 2007-John Schulz"


http://mdc4.mdc.mo.gov/Documents/15822.pdf

To see a good photo of a Korean ring-necked pheasant both rooster and hen, click on link below. Thanks go to 1pheas4 and focus group "Focusgruppe Der Edelfasanen" for the link:

http://www.edelfocusgruppe.de.vu/

First click on the top left "The True Pheasants".
Second click on Pheasianus colchicus Karpowi-The Korean ring-necked pheasant.
Third same procedure to see the White-Winged/Bianchi pheasant, Pheasianus colchicus Bianchi, Notice most of the hens of the true pheasant subspecies look alike.

The wild pheasants in the Bootheel of Mo. (S. E. corner) shows what can happen when you release pheasants with wild wary and alert genes, they take root inspite of various theories on bug, fleas, heat, humidity and calcium. The wild Bootheel pheasants are made up of a cross of the wary and alert Korean pheasants and wary and alert White-Winged pheasant (Bianchi Pheasant). See article below: A good photo of the White-Winged/Bianchi pheasant can also be found on the true pheasant focus group.




http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...sg=AFQjCNGvdEPe-1AmdRPdfCVPim3aFxV6uQ&cad=rja


Look at 412 on the White-Winged (Bianchi Pheasants) the article calls them Afghan White-Winged pheasants released in 60's in Missouri, Oklahoma as well as in New Mexico and in Texas.
 
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