When will the upland forecast be out?

BrownDogsCan2 said:
thats kinda chickenshit....holden back 3 weeks to sell a couple hundred more licenses.

if you ask me
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Yea, it ain't no accident!

I still despise the fact that there is a "T" at the end of "KDWP" these days. The "T" lends itself well to questionable marketing strategies and management practices. I'm afraid they're more concerned with marketing our resources than they are with managing them:mad:
 
bird stuff

kansasbrittany said:
Yea, it ain't no accident!

I still despise the fact that there is a "T" at the end of "KDWP" these days. The "T" lends itself well to questionable marketing strategies and management practices. I'm afraid they're more concerned with marketing our resources than they are with managing them:mad:
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ya all know that they ain't gonna tell us there are no birds, stay home, somebody gotta pay those yahoo's. they need the business, it might (might) tell us a few areas that have been less impacted and for me, i'll be there like an idiot anyway, surely will be no crowd. a bright star just might be while there is not much habitat or at least habitat with pheasants, what is good for pheasants, it is less so for quail and those numbers could be really up and i might yet have a new aya to shoot at them with

cheers
 
Really doesn't matter what they say does it? We are all going to hunt anyway. I have a better idea whats around me within a 30 mile radius as far as birds goes than they do anyway.

I suppose the out of staters will want to read their sugar coated findings.

Yes the "T" at the end of KDWP hasn't set well with me either. I despise the fact that they are implying wildlife is tourism. Lets exploit our wildlife all for the mighty dollar. Never been a fan of what takes place in SD as far as hunting goes. Too much of a business and I really really hope KS doesn't go that way, ever.

Hunting (in the way we think of it) is supposed to be a tradition handed down, not a way for the greedy state to make money off of people. I hate to see it viewed as a way our already greedy state can make money.

Ok, now I'm headed out to work dogs on some birds.
 
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duckn66 said:
Really doesn't matter what they say does it? We are all going to hunt anyway. I have a better idea whats around me within a 30 mile radius as far as birds goes than they do anyway.

I suppose the out of staters will want to read their sugar coated findings.

Yes the "T" at the end of KDWP hasn't set well with me either. I despise the fact that they are implying wildlife is tourism. Lets exploit our wildlife all for the mighty dollar. Never been a fan of what takes place in SD as far as hunting goes. Too much of a business and I really really hope KS doesn't go that way, ever.

Hunting (in the way we think of it) is supposed to be a tradition handed down, not a way for the greedy state to make money off of people. I hate to see it viewed as a way our already greedy state can make money.

Ok, now I'm headed out to work dogs on some birds.
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kansas will have to have a lot more birds than it does before you worry about it going the way of s. dakota. some of the larger guiding operations i find troubling though.

cheers
 
Not staying home

I sent 2 emails KSWP just asking when the bird report was going to be out and didnt get a reply. WTF are they so busy that they cant reply with a simple date. Really! Really? Really. Well whatever it says im not staying home. My dad can im not ill go look for them crazy birds by myself if i have too. My 2yr old britiany getting crazy hes ready to go.
 
Campbell76 said:
I sent 2 emails KSWP just asking when the bird report was going to be out and didnt get a reply. WTF are they so busy that they cant reply with a simple date. Really! Really? Really. Well whatever it says im not staying home. My dad can im not ill go look for them crazy birds by myself if i have too. My 2yr old britiany getting crazy hes ready to go.
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now that is chicken shit!:eek:
 
duckn66 said:
Really doesn't matter what they say does it? We are all going to hunt anyway. I have a better idea whats around me within a 30 mile radius as far as birds goes than they do anyway.

I suppose the out of staters will want to read their sugar coated findings.

Yes the "T" at the end of KDWP hasn't set well with me either. I despise the fact that they are implying wildlife is tourism. Lets exploit our wildlife all for the mighty dollar. Never been a fan of what takes place in SD as far as hunting goes. Too much of a business and I really really hope KS doesn't go that way, ever.

Hunting (in the way we think of it) is supposed to be a tradition handed down, not a way for the greedy state to make money off of people. I hate to see it viewed as a way our already greedy state can make money.

Ok, now I'm headed out to work dogs on some birds.
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I hate to say it but in order to save a resource you have to exploit it. Every state that has game people want to hunt is going to try and make money off of it. In my home state of Colorado we pimp out our elk to out of staters. In Kansas and the Dakotas it's pheasants. The revenue from the license will help protect habitat and secure properties for the public to hunt.
 
With our current administration the revenue from the license would likely go to pay debt the state has accumulated.
 
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duckn66 said:
With our current administration the revenue from the license would likely go to pay debt the state has accumulated.
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i don't know whether the fish and game have their own fund or the revenue goes into a general fund. in colorado the money does not go into a general fund. i would imagine that far too much money goes to running the dept. and precious little of it goes to truly support the fish and game such as habitat and hunting opportunities. colorado is gotten really top heavy and the sportsmen are nearly forgotten.

cheers
 
I think your correct.

If memory serves me correctly I think a number of years ago the money that the state parks were recieving was being put into the general state fund which from my understanding it was not supposed to be. I think that got straightened out rather quickly though.
 
Kansas really doesnt rely on pheasant hunting as much as the dakotas. Thats obvious to seen as the decline in WIHA and CRP. I wish that KS would set up a program to help upland game or any game. We lose hunting opportunities and hunters every year. I know there are bigger problems out there but hunting is an American tradition. seems like no one cares except Pheasants Forever but only they can do so much.
 
Campbell76 said:
Kansas really doesnt rely on pheasant hunting as much as the dakotas. Thats obvious to seen as the decline in WIHA and CRP. I wish that KS would set up a program to help upland game or any game. We lose hunting opportunities and hunters every year. I know there are bigger problems out there but hunting is an American tradition. seems like no one cares except Pheasants Forever but only they can do so much.
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I believe Kansas gets most of their funding from the Pittman-Robertson Act for payment to land owners who enroll their ground in WIHA.

as for the decline of CRP, that is purely an economic factor driven by profit for tillable acreage, happening all over, not just Kansas.......
the by product of low ag prices was CRP, now that commodity prices are up, the ground is going back into production....simple economics.
 
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hunter94 said:
I believe Kansas gets most of their funding from the Pittman-Robertson Act for payment to land owners who enroll their ground in WIHA.

as for the decline of CRP, that is purely an economic factor driven by profit for tillable acreage, happening all over, not just Kansas.......
the by product of low ag prices was CRP, now that commodity prices are up, the ground is going back into production....simple economics.
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you are right on their funding source

cheers
 
Yes....,and no.
It also has to do with the fact that the current administration didn't renew a lot of the CRP contracts. So, if they came out of contract, of course they're going to try to make money off of that land.
Even though, theoretically a farmer will make more money off of a given piece of land by farming it versus his CRP payment, a lot of them would have left it in CRP if given the chance.
 
Updated: 9/25/13
Upland Bird Regional Forecast
NOTICE: The Upland Bird Forecast will be available early October 2013.


Kansas Small Game Regions, all counties in Kansas were opened for emergency haying and grazing of CRP this year due to extreme drought throughout the state.
 
surprise

i believe that when you consider both pheasants and quail there will be a surprise to the up side and if there is, not much credit could be given to the fiish and game dept. certainly their communications to us hunters could be far better

cheers
 
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