What to legally do with a hen!

Yep, I would love to clean and eat the bird. Just ain't worth it. If they give any wiggle room with the law, people will abuse it. Sure they do now. Best to leave hens go for sure, the law needs enforcing. Hens are the only thing that will be putting more out there to flush.:cheers:
 
Otherwise when they ask for consent to look through your things tell them no, not much they can do.

I don't know about other states but in Calif. wardens don't need a warrant to search you and your stuff. If you watch the TV show, "Wild Justice" about Calif. game wardens you'll see that whenever they do drug busts they always have a warden along so they can look anywhere they want, nominally looking for game. While doing that and they find drug stuff well nobody is more surprised than they are.
A lot of states have a requirement that, if they ask, you must show any game official all the animals you have in your possession so just saying no may not prevent a search and will result in an additional charge.
This year, as in years past, there were wardens at the agricultural inspection station where you enter Calif. to check for game. There were probably 20 people from enforcement working at the Truckee station. In years past just having an ice chest visible was reason to have you shunted over into their inspection area.
 
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If I shot a hen I take it with. I feel like it was my fault I deserve the fine if I get cuaght. I just can't leave a bird in the field just beacuase i shouldn't of shot it. Now granted i have never gone as far as to turn myslef in, so i see both sides and don't think one way is better, just a personal preference. Not that i shot hens very often, I thinks its been 10 years since my last mistake. But, I actually have had 2 Hens flush and hit a high wire and die. I thought this was super rare, but it has happened to me this year and last year. Anyone else ever witness this? Anyway i picked both up and took them back home and cleaned them, they taste just like roosters.
 
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If I shot a hen I take it with. I feel like it was my fault I deserve the fine if I get cuaght. I just can't leave a bird in the field just beacuase i shouldn't of shot it. Now granted i have never gone as far as to turn myslef in, so i see both sides and don't think one way is better, just a personal preference. Not that i shot hens very often, I thinks its been 10 years since my last mistake. But, I actually have had 2 Hens flush and hit a high wire and die. I thought this was super rare, but it has happened to me this year and last year. Anyone else ever witness this? Anyway i picked both up and took them back home and cleaned them, they taste just like roosters.

ditto for me. mistakes are rare in my life and i surely don't need to shoot a hen to make me feel good and my dogs don't really understand the law. i feel guilty if i were to leave the bird to rot. i take my chance and they are small, it doesn't bother me a bit and the law should have a better way to understand a mistake. in colorado in big hunting it is now written into law that mistakes happen just like sxxx happens and they have a way to deal with it.

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Anyone else ever witness this?

Not with a hen but a couple of years ago I missed a rooster with both barrels and it flew away climbing in altitude as it went. When it reached what it thought was a safe elevation it started its glide into some shelter belts and crashed into phone or power lines paralleling the road that bounded the field. I almost had a stroke running to get it before somebody ran over it or picked it up. Delicious!
 
But, I actually have had 2 Hens flush and hit a high wire and die.

I saw that happen in Idaho on the same trip on which I accidentally shot my first hen as a teenager. There were six or seven other people around at the time and I'm pretty sure somebody retrieved that one.
 
I've had my dogs catch a few over the years. Seems to happen when it gets really cold for several days in a row. I've also shot 2 hens by mistake in 35 years of hunting. I always put them in my bag and roll the dice. Just can't stand to leave them there.... I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. Wish the wardens would be more understanding, but in my experience they are pretty black and white about the rules.
 
to be honest its not the wardens or state being dicks its some dumb yahoo shooting hens that needs to be caught thats makes shooting hens so bad...

what happened to be sure of your target & whats beyond it B4 you shoot or dont shoot???

i understand the mentality of i shot it i got to take it home & eat it or its wasted... but if we didnt shoot then hen we would not need to cry about the wardens doing there jobs??? or worry about being caught???

i would hope everybody who shot a hen took it home & with them but that is not the case... same as i hope all who shoot hens get caught we dont need them guys out & about in the same fields as legal hunters who knows what else they shoot there not supposed to be it animals or other hunters... if people get that focused or 1 track minded that they need to shoot at things there not supposed to thats dangerous to be around it only takes 1 accident to shoot another hunter its not worth it...
 
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to be honest its not the wardens or state being dicks its some dumb yahoo shooting hens that needs to be caught thats makes shooting hens so bad...

what happened to be sure of your target & whats beyond it B4 you shoot or dont shoot???

i understand the mentality of i shot it i got to take it home & eat it or its wasted... but if we didnt shoot then hen we would not need to cry about the wardens doing there jobs??? or worry about being caught???

i would hope everybody who shot a hen took it home & with them but that is not the case... same as i hope all who shoot hens get caught we dont need them guys out & about in the same fields as legal hunters who knows what else they shoot there not supposed to be it animals or other hunters... if people get that focused or 1 track minded that they need to shoot at things there not supposed to thats dangerous to be around it only takes 1 accident to shoot another hunter its not worth it...
ya gotta remember bucko, that not everybody walks on water and i bet you don't either or you have a problem in that you can't hit anything, period

cheers
 
i would rather be a poor poor shot then a good shot thats a hen killer... just me... no need to stand up for or protect people who shoot hens bucko, thats for preserve hunting period...

you kill hundreds of bird a season i hope all are roosters??? or are we including preserve hunt birds??? wear hens are ok to shoot???

dogs catching birds/hens is out of our hands for the most part in the hunting fields... shooting hens is 100% in our control & can & should be avoided no gray area dont shoot it... dont get caught with it on ur person... period...

we need all the hens we can keep alive to breed... dont get the protect a poacher & blame the state/CO for somebody shooting a hen mentality???

i like that guys say they would keep it on there person if they did shoot a hen but how many really would keep a hen on them??? be honest... if they do like they said & if they get caught they would take the medicine thats only fair...

we all should be on the same page on this 1 the storys of how a hen got killed are great to hear so that i will never do that type thing in the fields...

but to blame states & or COs for a trigger happy hunter is stretching it a little???
 
I don't think this thread is for people that go out and shoot Hens for sport. I think its about people that shot one by mistake. And if you have never done that great. But after you hunt for 30 years, i am sure you will answer this question differently. Guys aren't advocating for the shooting of hens on this thread, some are just saying they have, and wish for some understanding. Rather than leaving the Hen in the field. Most hunters feel bad enough after they shoot a hen.
 
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Ive never shot a hen.. to date. .. My labrador would catch them on occasion. It seemed like in the winter, they would perish from being caught. Warmer temps they would be OK to be released. Maybe they were already sick in the winter. I dont know.

What I do know, is that if in that situation, I will take it home and clean it.. (or clean it in the field) If my dog caught it, its considered part of my daily. They all eat the same..

Ive picked up warm Prairie chickens on the road that werent able to miss the high lines. I dont consider them part of the bag.

I dont see myself getting caught with a hen now..as it doesnt happen with the pointers I have..
 
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Ive never shot a hen.. to date. .. My labrador would catch them on occasion. It seemed like in the winter, they would perish from being caught. Warmer temps they would be OK to be released. Maybe they were already sick in the winter. I dont know.

What I do know, is that if in that situation, I will take it home and clean it.. (or clean it in the field) If my dog caught it, its considered part of my daily. They all eat the same..

Ive picked up warm Prairie chickens on the road that werent able to miss the high lines. I dont consider them part of the bag.

I dont see myself getting caught with a hen now..as it doesnt happen with the pointers I have..

give your mutts some time and bird contact, they will, not often and be careful about hunting in snow deep enough that the birds can burrow under it, the hens have a hard time getting out and a wiggling bird in front of even a good dog is game to the dog. really though, go hunting and have a great time, worry about problems when they happen esp. a little as this situation occurs. while mostly we have been talking about pheasants, quail as singles are a more frequent problem getting caught by a dog.

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If I shot a hen I take it with. I feel like it was my fault I deserve the fine if I get cuaght. I just can't leave a bird in the field just beacuase i shouldn't of shot it. Now granted i have never gone as far as to turn myslef in, so i see both sides and don't think one way is better, just a personal preference. Not that i shot hens very often, I thinks its been 10 years since my last mistake. But, I actually have had 2 Hens flush and hit a high wire and die. I thought this was super rare, but it has happened to me this year and last year. Anyone else ever witness this? Anyway i picked both up and took them back home and cleaned them, they taste just like roosters.

As a kid in MN hunting with my dad, uncle and cousins, a hen flushed and hit a high wire. Warden saw it happen, and there was coincidental shooting at some roosters. Warden came out and gave everyone a shakedown...pretty scarey for a young kid who's Dad was super ethical. After the shakedown, went over and the dog found a headless hen with no pellet wounds. Case closed.

Have witnessed one other hen hit a powerline, and a rooster hit the top strand of a barb wired fence.:eek:
 
I have stood never had anything search at a checkpoint yet. They asked, but even my coolers were bungeed down. Told them what I shot, where we stayed and what we ate.

A good law enforcement officer can often tell when someone is not telling the truth or they come out yelling...

I had more HS friends (well lets say classmates because they did not HUNT with us) arrested by wardens for alcohol (underage) and pot possession. Guess it was hard to kill things when you did not want to leave the car. :rolleyes: Idiots.
 
Game Wardens and CO"s have more judicial powers then any other domestic branch of law enforcement. You shoot a hen, they could take your gun, your dog, your truck..anything used to take illegal game. Will they actually do that? no most if not all would not but if you get in trouble for taking illegal game they legally have the right to confiscate anything and everything used in that process.
 
Just a point of reference. Few are around who participated, but hens were INCULDED in the bag limits in certain states, I believe Oregon did in the early 1900's, also I have seen pictures of hunters in South Dakota, with clothesline stringers of roosters, hens, et.al. In the time between 1950-1975 Pennsylvania had a hen included in the bag, This was before released birds, when Pa. had a harvest of over a million birds, plus. Now of course we have hens included in the release birds in several states, there is little to suggest they will survive and reproduce. In the old days, bountiful habitat, excess hens were harvested to allow hunting opportunities. Success or lack thereof, in my opinion has less to do harvesting hens, then the loss of habitat. I have never been allowed a hen while hunting, and I am happy to give them a break, use them for dog training exercises. But I doubt that the possums, red-tailed hawk, skunks, snakes, starvation, ice storms, give hens a break. Which makes me doubt the voracity of the practice. After all, with bob white quail, we harvest both sexes, even though we know, that the male bobwhite fairly commonly with brood and provide parenting to chicks, sometimes after the hen hit the bricks, with a new beau! Basically, I claim it's discrimination against the brightly colored rooster, because he is readily identified. If we control the total harvest like we do quail. I doubt that we would see effects on the harvest, we are not seeing now, due to habitat pressure, might make the surviving hens wilder, providing wild characteristics to be passed on, rather than dim-witted hen who recreates dim-witted chicks, or gets mowed under the alfalfa. I believe this wildlife policy is based on TRADITION. like a circle pie plate, no square, because your mom used one! Here the poorly informed 1900's game departments did it, must be for a good reason? I believe with vast habitat, hens saved will produce more babies, just like the clucks in your game pen!
 
Just a point of reference. Few are around who participated, but hens were INCULDED in the bag limits in certain states, I believe Oregon did in the early 1900's, also I have seen pictures of hunters in South Dakota, with clothesline stringers of roosters, hens, et.al. In the time between 1950-1975 Pennsylvania had a hen included in the bag, This was before released birds, when Pa. had a harvest of over a million birds, plus. Now of course we have hens included in the release birds in several states, there is little to suggest they will survive and reproduce. In the old days, bountiful habitat, excess hens were harvested to allow hunting opportunities. Success or lack thereof, in my opinion has less to do harvesting hens, then the loss of habitat. I have never been allowed a hen while hunting, and I am happy to give them a break, use them for dog training exercises. But I doubt that the possums, red-tailed hawk, skunks, snakes, starvation, ice storms, give hens a break. Which makes me doubt the voracity of the practice. After all, with bob white quail, we harvest both sexes, even though we know, that the male bobwhite fairly commonly will brood and provide parenting to chicks, sometimes after the hen hit the bricks, with a new beau! Basically, I claim it's discrimination against the brightly colored rooster, because he is readily identified. If we control the total harvest like we do quail. I doubt that we would see effects on the harvest, we are not seeing now, due to habitat pressure, might make the surviving hens wilder, providing wild characteristics to be passed on, rather than dim-witted hen who recreates dim-witted chicks, or gets mowed under the alfalfa. I believe this wildlife policy is based on TRADITION. like a circle pie plate, no square, because your mom used one! Here the poorly informed 1900's game departments did it, must be for a good reason? I believe with vast habitat, hens saved will produce more babies, just like the clucks in your game pen! We shoot does and fall turkey hens.
 
If states allowed for 1 hen in the bag as a mistake, those that shoot hens would take two. And for sure would have their hen in the bag, make it a priority. :rolleyes:
I have had a hen or two and a rooster or two hit a fence or power line over the years. Couple times a pup has caught a bird or two. For me to sit here and tell you the ones caught by the dogs didn't have a BB or two in them, would be ridiculous :eek:
I don't know how people mistake a hen for a rooster while looking down the gun barrel. :confused:
 
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