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Does anyone here hunt pheasants with weimereners? how do they compare with gsp,english setters? How good are they at tracking?
 
No matter how you spell it, they wouldn't be my choice. But to each his own...

A good hunting buddy of mine has a blue weim. It is possibly the worst hunting dog I have ever seen. But it is a very pretty dog, and tall. Friendly dog too... People offer to pay him stud fees to breed his dog because it is so pretty and tall and blue.:eek: The dog regularly frustrates his owner to the point of nearly having a stroke, but it makes a lot of pretty, tall, blue puppies...:cool:

If you decide to go that way, I would be awfully selective and cautious about where you get it. I think there are people who breed them because they look cool and don't worry about hunting ability.
My .02
 
I had one for a couple months. He was handsome, and couldn't find a pork in a phone booth.

Steve
 
grey dogs

think they were imported during the 40's as a brand new no hokum do it all dog. might have been at one time but something has happened. the early dogs might have had the brains and nose but because of the bullshit press they were so eagerly sought after that puppy mills were created to meet the demand and there ya have it. if you really had to have a weim, get an adult trained dog that you can see worked cause the odds of getting a puppy to really please is not great. a friend of mine tried trialing them many years ago, had many a drink over why he made the choice and how they really never got to the level of many other dogs. good one's around, bet there is, could you find one, bet ya can't. but all this said, if ya gotta have one do it and see for yourself, might work out for ya, if you are kinda new at this pick a dog that is likely to give you better results, one that can handle your ignorance if that is what it is and build a learning curve that way, keep in mind that all dogs have some general quirks but some are easier for some people to handle than others. good luck and read, there ain't a best one but some are easier

cheers
 
Classic case of being bred for looks rather than performance. The initial dogs were fine hunters. Then the breeders go hold of them and they became pretty faces. Sort of like the Irish setters. Too bad. There may be some good hunting strains left but why bother. GSP's or their ilk will do it all day and you don't have to worry about getting a show dog.
 
My old man had them for years and his dogs were great on quail. One major problem with them is there color. They can flat disappear on you. They aren't called "grey gosts" for nothing.
 
Just do alot of research and find the right breeder, you can get a good one. When I ran my GSP for his JH title we got paired with a Weim 2 seperate times, what I noticed was that they hunted at an overall slower pace and appeared not to be as determined as my GSP was when it came time to searching the field for birds, but they did hunt.
 
William Wegeman (sp) did more to destroy this breed then any single person out there.

But anyways, from what I hear, (I haven't seen their dogs on the ground) these folks breed really nice dogs. At least, that's what Maurice Lindley told me a while back, and I would trust his judgement.

http://www.gundogbreeders.com/breeders-south-carolina/cherrystone-weimaraners.html

I gunned for a Weim club hunt test and while I wasn't blown away by the weims, there were some out there that were well bred and hunted well. Not what I would look for in a dog, but good hunters nonetheless.

My point is that there are some decent weims out there, but I damn sure wouldn't be going to some backyard breeding between some weim and the weim down the road to get my pup, that's for sure.
 
other dogs

not sure what "other" birds dogs and their ilk like gsp is supposed to mean. maybe one bread or the other but that was a pretty wide brush you painted with

cheers
 
other bird dogs

mr. sneen said so. i really know that there really is only one bird dog out there anyway and i own a number of them. just wondering what he had in mind, no hurt feeling here, i'm have a glass of wine waiting for the snow to start

cheers
 
I am hunting a labrador/Weimaraner mix. We did pretty well in 2011 (her first year). This year she really started pointing and we took somewhere around 18 birds here in Kansas. It was a tough year and I did not put in the hours I should have. We went out 8 or 10 times around the Clay Center area, with two trips out west. She would be better if I knew how to train her, but as is, she stays close and most of the birds we got this year were pointed. If I found a pup out of a hunting pair, I would consider getting another.
 
I have three of them. I love them. They will get birds out of the water or hunt'em up on land.

Amazing dogs but need lots of attention.

Here's the kind of dedication they have to hunting and retrieving. This one is retrieving a deer that was on the opposite bank of the river.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a9u8ILAHRc

Here's some pics of mine
 
One more just for fun
 
weims are like any other breed their are good ones and then their are bootlickers i have seen several great bird dogs and several couch potatoes
 
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