"Started" Brittany out of Nolans last bullet

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In the local paper there is a 2yr old "started" Britt, grandson of Nolans last bullet for $400. Now I know NLB was a top nstra dog, highly sought after in blood lines but all I can think of is that for $400 this dog must have some serious faults. I have no interest in this dog but I have a buddy who is. My advice to him was to just start with a pup. Any thoughts?
 
What do they consider "started"? Everyone has a different opinion of the definiton. What I might consider started, someone else may think of as finished or vice versa. I'd find out exactly what the dog has been trained to do.
What sort of environment does the dog live in.

Why is he selling it.

How far back is the "Nolans Last Bullet" and what dogs are mixed in the bloodlines.

Much like Elhew, Nolans blood can be thrown around alot for the name. Seeing Buddy once three generations back ain't quite the same as having Buddy sired the litter..

More important to me would be the parents.

Health checks?

Then again, the dog could be a trial wash out trying to make room who would make a fine hunting dog, or it could be a change in the life of the owner. Who knows.
 
I wouldn't assume anything in this economy. People's situations change. Certainly worth a look. One thing that impresses me about Britts as apposed to almost all other gundogs, is that a very high percentage turn out to be at least useful field dogs, sometimes by just going along on hunts almost by osmosis. I sure don't think it's true that a lot of dogs could lanquish in a kennel for a couple of years and turn out, but I wouldn't bet against a Britt.
 
You guys have covered most of my thoughts. Initially I thought this dog is a bust with some major flaws. Then I looked at my pup that had to come back home because of owner hardships. He is a great little guy, never saw a bird before in his 7 months but found, flushed, and chased 2 quail very well his first day home.

I told my friend that if he wants to see the dog to have the owner meet us at my house, we can see him interact with strange people and dogs and plant some birds to see how he does. I like the fact that for the most part Britts aren't diluted by "bench" breeding like some other breeds. Quail season is still open so maybe the owner might even be willing to run him on quail for a potential buyer.

To me "started" would mean at least bird and gun introductions, and for a Britt at least basic retrieving.
 
quail hound said:
You guys have covered most of my thoughts. Initially I thought this dog is a bust with some major flaws. Then I looked at my pup that had to come back home because of owner hardships. He is a great little guy, never saw a bird before in his 7 months but found, flushed, and chased 2 quail very well his first day home.

I told my friend that if he wants to see the dog to have the owner meet us at my house, we can see him interact with strange people and dogs and plant some birds to see how he does. I like the fact that for the most part Britts aren't diluted by "bench" breeding like some other breeds. Quail season is still open so maybe the owner might even be willing to run him on quail for a potential buyer.

To me "started" would mean at least bird and gun introductions, and for a Britt at least basic retrieving.
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Sounds like a great idea. Good luck.

(Oh, BTW, to me, a started dog is a dog that is introduced to birds/guns and will point a bird long enough for me to get infront of it, or close to it.)

:)
 
IMO the big question would be why is the dog being sold? However, I have to be honest to say Im not a huge fan of NLB dogs. Im not saying they aren't great dogs, because they are. But for my purpose I want a bigger running dog then NLB tends to throw. Now, before the NLB faithful jump all over me, I have hunted over his direct offspring several times. IMO what NLB throws is great foot hunting dogs with a very nice natural retrieve. You won't win many AKC/AF trials with a NLB dog, but they do make a nice foot hunting dog. For 90% of the guys out there, thats just about perfect. But I wouldn't get too excited about a grandson or daughter of NLB. I would want to see the entire pedigree before I got excited.
 
nolans last bullet is a good dog to introduce into what you already have started in the case of breeding and most are awesome hunters a few trialers but the only reason i would look at it would be the bloodline lets face it if your breeding buyers want names they dont care if the pup will hunt its all about the names in the pedigree
 
I would not be afraid to look...My wife and i brought home a "lightly started" 8 month old brittany a few weeks ago for free, gent couldn't get rid of them offered free to hunting home. Had him meet us at one of my private hunting area's and ran her on quail and pheasants, she ran well and pointed 4 hens in about 30 minutes, held point to flush on all of them, no creep....done deal.
Right now it is a huge buyers market for the more common pointing breeds like EP's,GSP's and Britts.
 
Gove County Britts said:
nolans last bullet is a good dog to introduce into what you already have started in the case of breeding and most are awesome hunters a few trialers but the only reason i would look at it would be the bloodline lets face it if your breeding buyers want names they dont care if the pup will hunt its all about the names in the pedigree
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Wrong! It's all about the dogs.... And the integrity of the breeder. A pile a crap should never be bred pedigree or not.
 
fcs your right it is wrong but tell that to the multitude of paper buying idiots around here i agree with you but unfortunately the ones buying pups around in this area do not
 
Gove County Britts said:
fcs your right it is wrong but tell that to the multitude of paper buying idiots around here i agree with you but unfortunately the ones buying pups around in this area do not
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Well do something about it. Provide something better. If everyone is doing the right thing, and thats all the market will bare, then it is in sad shape. Cause that means less health tests, no hips checked, and so on. ruining another breed slowly over time.
 
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