Social security benefits question

Nope…turn 60 in 6 weeks. I worked for a large company for 33 years, that’s my monthly premium after I get a $600 monthly subsidy from the company for my years of service. Me and my wife are covered. Went from $1450, then $1900, now $2600. And no more dental coverage. I’ll go from my current 9 teeth to 3-4 in just a few years!🤓
When I retired in May, I took a job teaching at a private school the next day 4 days a week. So did my wife only she teaches 5 days. So we get our KPERS retirement, plus the salary of our new jobs, which also includes our health insurance at no cost. They also pay for dental and vision. My plan is to continue double dipping til 65 then draw Social Security. Who knows, I may triple dip.
 
BB sorry for your recent losses. As for advice, good advice can come from anywhere as can bad advice. One day probably 25 or 30 years ago me, a tile contractor and a plumbing contractor and electrical contractor had lunch together in a custom home we were building. SS came up and we ran the numbers on some scrap wood. We determined early SS was a loser and if we took SS at full retirement instead of waiting till 70 we’d be ahead till 82 and we could use the money better while we were healthier. Seems to have worked out well, we all still do the odd job, but financially we’re not suffering. About that time we also decided this one international stock fund was worth having and we hit that nail soundly.
 
Part of my thinking is using SS to supplant LTC insurance which I don’t have; my mom did, it paid out about 600k over past 7.5 years, which kept her from going broke…she probably would have been ok in retrospect, there wouldn’t have been gifting annually from her estate. In the last year or two, on a combined basis, my parents’ bills were over $26,000/monthly. Glad your choices have worked for you. If markets were to tank dramatically 2,3 years prior to FRA, I could see taking it then if I was gonna use SS for living expenses, and back off on portfolio draw. I keep a healthy % in cash/fixed assets, to provide for several years of income in the event of another 2008-2009 scenario…or 2000-2003…it’ll happen, just a matter of when. Anyhow, thx for kind remarks, stay warm!!
 
for those who retire before 65/medicare, it might be worth googling Joe Kuhn, and who he used to secure health insurance
Congrats to those able to retire early!
 
I took my SS at 63. Waiting until I was 67 1/2 would have increased my payment but I would have to live until 85 to just break even. Career firefighters have a finite lifespan because of the carcinogens and other chemicals we were exposed to and I doubt that I make 85.
 
I took my SS at 63. Waiting until I was 67 1/2 would have increased my payment but I would have to live until 85 to just break even. Career firefighters have a finite lifespan because of the carcinogens and other chemicals we were exposed to and I doubt that I make 85.
That's why I am thinking I may go ahead and take mine early. Might as well enjoy the extra money while I am young. If you ever end up in assisted living or a rest home, the gov't is taking all of it. The Gov't wants you to wait hoping you die before you get much of it.
 
No advantage to waiting past 67, it’s the full retirement age for those born 1960 or later; people born before that have FRA’s that are lower than 67. Never hurts to bounce the SS decision off of your CPA if you work with one…about every one I’ve chatted with are fans of waiting at least to FRA, but there are certainly situations where taking it early can make sense. In 2026, the max amount by age is $2969 at 62, $4152 at 67, and $5181 at 70…these amounts assume you hit the maximum income level for 35 years in your employment history. Regardless, they demonstrate the difference one receives depending on age of benefit initiation. SS is one of the few pension benefits with a COLA adjustment annually; starting with a larger benefit, through waiting, the benefit compounds quite markedly. I intend to wait until 67, and those first 5 years I’ll draw more from my own portfolio, then back off once I start receiving SS. Every situation is different, lots of reasons to take at 62, 67, 70, etc. If I had to bet a case of PBR, I’d bet that on average, lifetime SS payouts are greater for those who wait the longest to claim, but certainly some people die before ever receiving any of their benefits. It’s a big, consequential decision, worth researching from several angles…family health history is a good starting point, IMO.
 
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Have you been to SSA.gov? You can see all your earnings and what you will draw.

Yes. The website I referenced gives advice, based on your specific data you supply them, from SSA.gov. (Your primary insurance amount).
Have you been to SSA.gov? You can see all your earnings and what you will draw.

 
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Hate to put a damper on SS but it's going to be insolvent in about 7 years unless something drastic is done about it.

I still have about 20 years or so in the workforce and my financial planner doesn't even include it anymore in long term projections.
 
Hate to put a damper on SS but it's going to be insolvent in about 7 years unless something drastic is done about it.

I still have about 20 years or so in the workforce and my financial planner doesn't even include it anymore in long term projections.
Yeah, nobody talks about the financial trajectory we’re on in general…just saw an article yesterday about Dept of Treasury forecasting continuing deep deficits in the near future, adding trillions more to our national debt…interest on the debt has exceeded defense spending…they’re both around a trillion annually, and climbing, but interest is climbing faster. The website I referenced allows for reduced benefit projections based on the possibility of SS insolvency. Benefits will be there, perhaps at a reduced level…I think a 22% reduction is what’s used. Overall, we’ll be at 39 trillion in debt soon…we crossed 10 trillion around 2010…we’ve added 29 trillion in 16 years….I cannot believe it’s not treated like an emergency!!!!!🆘
 
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20, percent reduction willl never happen. They might raise the age. They will just print more money to cover the shortage. If we all ran our affairs the way congress runs our government we would be in deep do do. They were talking about this shortfall when I entered the work force 50 years ago. Most people don't realise the first collectors never paid a dime. Some people collected for 20 plus years and never paid a dime into the system. It was doomed to fail from the start. The young people pay to support the old and now with the BB generation we don't have enough young people. Plus your govt want to take your money and give it to illegals so they can get there votes. Its a mess .
 
20, percent reduction willl never happen. They might raise the age. They will just print more money to cover the shortage. If we all ran our affairs the way congress runs our government we would be in deep do do. They were talking about this shortfall when I entered the work force 50 years ago. Most people don't realise the first collectors never paid a dime. Some people collected for 20 plus years and never paid a dime into the system. It was doomed to fail from the start. The young people pay to support the old and now with the BB generation we don't have enough young people. Plus your govt want to take your money and give it to illegals so they can get there votes. Its a mess .
It’s been over 40 years since SS has been modified, it’ll have to happen again, obviously…I will say this, when my dad died on 9/3, his ex-wife (my mom) had her next payment increase show up on 10/1 (she’s entitled to his full benefit), which was more than 3x her benefit. When she died on 12/28, her next pmt on 1/1 didn’t occur…her death was picked up that quick, we didn’t report it (funeral home does). Pretty efficient govt agency! Later learned that her SS check was sent to her bank, and they kicked it back to SS, knowing she had died (I hadn’t notified the bank yet).
 
The problem is that any politician who even mentions the words "social security modification" risks political suicide. None of them have the spine to even consider tackling the problem.
 
The problem is that any politician who even mentions the words "social security modification" risks political suicide. None of them have the spine to even consider tackling the problem.
Or any mention of anything related to our sad state of financial affairs. At the end of the day, it’s a reflection of the country overall, IMO…people don’t care…I had words with a 60’sh woman who sits in her electric scooter thingy and panhandles at a local grocery store…she’ll yell at you asking for $…I saw her take the last puff on a cig and toss it…she didn’t ask me as I walked in, but 10 minutes later she didn’t ask…I asked how much her cigs cost, $12? She told me she doesn’t smoke…I busted her and told her I saw her smoking earlier…she said that was her last one, she quit. That about sums it up. Later in the day is about as far in the future many people plan their $….and aren’t honest with themselve’s about many things, including their $…gotta go, my Latte is ready! Only $8!!!!!!
 
I dealt with the WEP because I had a Fire Department pension even though I had my 40 quarters in the books before I went to the FD and I continued to work and pay SS on those jobs. With the WEP, SS Administration wanted to make sure we didn’t “double dip” so they actuarially decreased our SS benefits because we had a pension.
I never thought it was fair but it was what it was until both the house and senate voted and changed the rules in Oct, 2024. Biden signed it into law on Jan 6, 2025 and I received a “back-pay” check in March of 2025 and an increase in my benefits in April.
 
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