Should CRP, CREP and other program $$ require public access?

Requirements to participate in Habitat Programs

  • Must allow full public hunting access

    Votes: 7 9.0%

  • No fee hunting allowed but don't have to allow public hunting access

    Votes: 13 16.7%

  • No barrier--can allow fee hunting while not allowing public access

    Votes: 20 25.6%

  • Same as #1 with some restrictions allowed (i.e. no vehicles, no hunting in unharvested fields)

    Votes: 28 35.9%

  • Other (explain if desired)

    Votes: 10 12.8%
  • Total voters
    78
I did not know South Dakota had a DNR. Maybe hiway ditches would work they are wider and the traffic might keep the predators away. I have to be careful where I take my my dog for a walk during nesting season or he will be all over the nests.
 
I will guarantee you birds nest in road ditches, I have seen them many many many many many times.I have seen them in town in shrubbery. Nesting hens have a ability to stop there scent from being so prevalent during nesting, just like fawn deer. The nests that are found are stumbled on, not found from 50 yards away. You can even see this when training with hens in the spring. Fence lines and road ditches are the "only" nesting places in much of northern IA and Sth MN. And the birds are doing great. Yes road ditches are important cover...
 
haymaker said:
I did not know South Dakota had a DNR. Maybe hiway ditches would work they are wider and the traffic might keep the predators away. I have to be careful where I take my my dog for a walk during nesting season or he will be all over the nests.
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Sorry it's GFP. I don't think highway ditches help either. I can not remember ever running over a nest.
 
FCSpringer said:
.I have seen them in town in shrubbery...
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First you must find... another shrubbery! Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle. Then, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forrest... with... a herring!”
 
moellermd said:
First you must find... another shrubbery! Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle. Then, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forrest... with... a herring!”
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OK it's confirmed, there is something wrong in Iowa. LOL:confused: You lost me here M:D
 
Just to confirm what Ken said about shrubbery. There is a shrub, boarder along my neighbors driveway. That thing is always full of nesting Quail. In the city not many places to hatch some chicks. They are fun to watch. I wish I could see the Quail in the wild I see here my yard at times...............Bob
 
Public access

Twenty years ago in my home state the pheasants started a steep decline. Sportsman were concerned! The Governor a avid pheasant hunter call a CONGRES, we flew in the best biologists, fish& game experts and informed hunters,est. A habit improvement program"HIP" was installed using moneys from the new upland,waterfowl stamps plus federal funds we went to work installing HIP. the out come? COMPLEAT FAILUR! But why? 1] HUNTERS: As hunters we put the HIP on lands we hunted. 2] Politics: The politions that control our F&G thought long term cooperation agreements were wrong thus only a 5 year comment were required! 3] The most important: We for got the PUBLIC HUNTING who were really paying. HIP were placed on lands the public did not have access! As the public hunting declined so did the hunter numbers thus the funds and the WELL! I see the same thing happening in the Dakotas. If you lose public access won"t you lose the numbers,funds & well to keep pheasant hunting alive!
 
M. R. Byrd said:
My CRP contract expires in 2012. If I have the opportunity to re-enroll it, I will consider it, but should public access be required I will not re-enroll it, even if I was offered twice the normal payment.

Some landowners would jump on any premium, such as is the case currently with the WIHA payments in Kansas. I will not.
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So in a way tax payers are footing the bill for you to have great hunting habitat. sweet;)
 
I would not enroll in a public deal either if I owned the land. However I can see an option for either as a sign up. Land owners choice. More pay for public. Long term. The men who don't care could sign up for that one.
 
haymaker said:
There is the CREP program that does that but you still have the liability issue.
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That's sick, why should a landowner be liable for people hunting their land walk in or otherwise? :mad:What happened to assume your own risk? That is one of my problems gaining private access in the lawsuit state of Ca. Good thing I have a long list of respected farmers and ranchers for reference in my area.
 
I am pretty sure SD law protects Walk-In area land owners from liability due to hunting accidents.
 
moellermd said:
I am pretty sure SD law protects Walk-In area land owners from liability due to hunting accidents.
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When I went to look into putting land in the CREP program The FSA lady told me I should talk to a lawyer and an insurance agent before I signed any papers.
 
From SDGFP

"The landowner opens the land to unlimited, free public hunting, which is open to foot-traffic only hunting, in exchange for a small payment and immunity from non-negligent liability."

http://gfp.sd.gov/wildlife/private-land/walk-in.aspx

I guess negligent liability would be open to interpretation, but at least they are trying with in the extent the law allows.
 
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