Shooting around my Pup

Hey Guys,
I just got my new yellow lab pup, He is 9 weeks old and my first lab, Was just wondering when would be a good time to start shooting my shotgun around him. I usually go trap shooting once a week didn't know if it would be smart to take him with at such a young age? any thoughts would be great thanks.

I would have someone shoot a blank gun at some distance while the dog is retrieving something and work closer a little at a time. When we bring in the shotgun it is usually while our dogs are pointing and flushing the bird.:cheers:
 
There is one thing everyone must keep in mind when taking your pup through gun intro. Be smart about it. No matter what method you use, be cautious, gun shyness is almost always a man made issue and very seldom if at all an irregular trait of an individual dog.
 
There is one thing everyone must keep in mind when taking your pup through gun intro. Be smart about it. No matter what method you use, be cautious, gun shyness is almost always a man made issue and very seldom if at all an irregular trait of an individual dog.

You are spot on. Reading the dog is key.:thumbsup:
 
There is one thing everyone must keep in mind when taking your pup through gun intro. Be smart about it. No matter what method you use, be cautious, gun shyness is almost always a man made issue and very seldom if at all an irregular trait of an individual dog.

Great advice.
 
I appreciate the original question in this post, and the answers in the resulting thread, because I bought an 8-week old bird dog pup in late January. With the miserably long winter we had in northeast KS, what with all the deep snow we got, I didn't get much done in the way of field work due to concerns about the pup taking a bad chill from constant contact with deep snow.

I've worked my pup a few times on pen-raised chukars concealed in grass, and this has been very exciting both for my pup and me. First exposure to a hidden chukar, she locked up hard. However, no gunshots were fired until the flushed bird was flying off with the pup in hot pursuit -- and the shot was from a .22 blank pistol. From my pup's reaction it's doubtful the gunshot sound even registered.

I greatly appreciate the comments about NOT taking a pup to a trap or skeet range for the purpose of acclimating the dog to the sound of gunfire; I had been considering doing exactly that as a way of accelerating her adjustment to gunfire noise, but now I think I'll ditch the shooting range idea and stick with the live bird training (expensive though it is).

The important thing is I want my pup to be as ready as a pup can be once real hunting for wild birds starts. Pheasants are gonna drive her nuts, I'm sure of it. But wild pheasants drive just about every hunting dog nuts, so we'll just go out there this fall and do what we can do.
 
Sounds like you are doing everything right. Just remember at this age they are kindergartners and their attention spans are only so long. Make it fun and keep them excited without a lot of pressure and it will pay dividends when they mature and are able to handle more pressure.
 
I live in the city so shooting around my dogs with enough frequency to be effective is out of the question. Instead I follow part of a routine that I read in George Evans' book Troubles With Bird Dogs. When I bring the puppy home with me I give them a couple of days to adjust to the new surroundings and new people. Then when I put food down for them in the kitchen I walk into the next room where I can see them. Once the puppy is heartily eating; I clap my hands one time. If the puppy reacts, I pause and wait until he is really chowing down and clap again. If he again shows a reaction I stop but if he doesn't react I clap again trying to be a little louder this time. When I can put his food down and stand directly over him clapping as loud as I can and he shows no reaction, I move on to other noise makers such as wooden spoons and detergent boxes or wooden spoons on a metal pan. Always starting with moderate force at a distance then gradually increasing the force and closing the distance. The purpose of all this is to help the dog make a positive association with loud noises. Once we are out of the city and in the training field I do exactly as has been mentioned already. Introduce the dog to birds and then when the puppy is focused and fired up in full chase of a bird I will fire a 22 blank at a distance, gradually working my way up to shooting birds over the dog. I never take my dogs to a trap/skeet/sporting clays range, no exceptions. It's a slow process not an instant solution but I have never had a dog that was the slightest bit gunshy. One of my dogs is afraid of thunder but not gun shy.

I will give a big amen to BritChaser's comment that gun shyness is almost always man made and will add that it is much easier to prevent than it is to cure.
 
One thing I like to use around little "Rooster Fetchers" anything under 10-12 weeks or a dog that is really shy to loud noises is a cap gun. Yep, the kind you buy at the toy store. Five bucks and to a couple little kids and let them shoot around the puppies while the puppies are eatting. You'll have your "Rooster Fetchers" used to it in no time. Works every time too :)
 
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