Plowing up the Prairie-At A Price-Mpls Newspaper

Moe, I wasn't clear when I asked what's the solution (sorry). I was referring to most of the habitat coming out of the ground--not necessarily native prairie alone.

Even when prices come down, I can't imagine hedge rows (for example) being "re-installed". You know what I mean? Why would a land owner put the time to tile, round-up, remove such an area only to turn around a few years later and put it all back?

Sure the hedgerows will come back..... after the government pays them to do it! That's why hedgerows were installed. Not only pay them to install, last time we had an army of paid installers, CPA, NRA, etc. That's how rural America has roads, bridges, electricity. The farmer didn't pay for it, the rest of us taxpayers did. Private corporations didn't do it, it was not cost effective, that's why the farmers have internet now, the government pays the providers to supply it to low density subscribers, you pay for on every cable bill, mobile phone bill, called a communication tax, to the fed's.
 
Sure the hedgerows will come back..... after the government pays them to do it! That's why hedgerows were installed. Not only pay them to install, last time we had an army of paid installers, CPA, NRA, etc. That's how rural America has roads, bridges, electricity. The farmer didn't pay for it, the rest of us taxpayers did. Private corporations didn't do it, it was not cost effective, that's why the farmers have internet now, the government pays the providers to supply it to low density subscribers, you pay for on every cable bill, mobile phone bill, called a communication tax, to the fed's.

Its guys like you with the attitude you have, that's the reason a lot of us freeloading farmers won't let people we don't know hunt. I would hate to let you set foot on my property.
 
Its guys like you with the attitude you have, that's the reason a lot of us freeloading farmers won't let people we don't know hunt. I would hate to let you set foot on my property.

I don't know why you assume me comments are to you personally? I don't know who you are or what you do. Maybe your the John Muir of farmers, or maybe your the Hefty Brothers Kissin' cousin. Any theory that anybody here suggests that doesn't fit a crown over American agriculture is an affront to you personally. I will suggest that you probably don't let anybody hunt except your friends, the governor, or somebody to hunt the nuisance deer. I say these thinks to my farmer friends, I have a lot, believe or not. I doubt I will need to get permission from you, between what I own, and farm, and my farmer friends. Who feel the same way I do.
 
Moe, I wasn't clear when I asked what's the solution (sorry). I was referring to most of the habitat coming out of the ground--not necessarily native prairie alone.

Even when prices come down, I can't imagine hedge rows (for example) being "re-installed". You know what I mean? Why would a land owner put the time to tile, round-up, remove such an area only to turn around a few years later and put it all back?

I can see a lot more wet spots going unplanted or other marginal ground. Right know the reward is worth the risk. I can afford to get a lower yield on this ground because prices are high. Tighten the margins and you will see a lot more cattails.
 
I can see a lot more wet spots going unplanted or other marginal ground. Right know the reward is worth the risk. I can afford to get a lower yield on this ground because prices are high. Tighten the margins and you will see a lot more cattails.

Or pole-axe crop insurance. That will suffice!
 
I like how you always put the best construct on things

We are a pole-axe everything, society, health insurance, vote on half of the agricultural bill, pole-axe the food stamp programs or other "social relief programs". These were in the farm bill since the thirties, a lot of the "social welfare" programs in the 1930's were for farm families, to keep them on the ground. So why not crop insurance? at least let the free market set the price, and the producer pays the full cost? I suspect that would suspend a lot of conversion to row crop.
 
. So why not crop insurance? at least let the free market set the price, and the producer pays the full cost? I suspect that would suspend a lot of conversion to row crop.

We might find some agreement here.
 
I can see a lot more wet spots going unplanted or other marginal ground. Right know the reward is worth the risk. I can afford to get a lower yield on this ground because prices are high. Tighten the margins and you will see a lot more cattails.

No we won't see more cattails, when many, many of those wet spots were dry in the last year or so. They been burned, tiled and this spring planted. They won't even be wet again. Unless we rip up the tile.
 
No we won't see more cattails, when many, many of those wet spots were dry in the last year or so. They been burned, tiled and this spring planted. They won't even be wet again. Unless we rip up the tile.

You can't legally tile a wetlands, in SD any way. Many tried to burn and till and plant this spring but everyone in my neck of the woods has cattails again.
 
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