Plateau or Milestone for pasture spray?

UGUIDE

UGUIDE

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Got a neighbor in SD that has 40 acre adjacent pasture with canada and musk thistle problem. He had it clipped and baled last year but I know they will be back and we are working on most economical treatment. The coop will spray for $5 /acre and we just have to determine best chemical.

Any help would be appreciated.

Seems like milestone runs a little higher than plateau but depends on the rate too.
 
Man the thistle problem got out of hand here in Charles Mix county last year.

I have used milestone in the past once and liked the job it did.

Did a late after the first good frost spraying of my CRP 33 two yrs ago and it really put a hurt on the thistle.
 
Milestone has worked great for me here in MI. UofMN did a study and Milestone had a 95% success rate when applied in the blossum stage around the first of July. Of course fall treatment is best when it is storing energy for winter, but I had good luck also with they July application.
There are a few good research articles out there if you do a Google search.

Cost is $20-25 an acre, but this is the most effective herbicide currently for thistles. The cost is not that bad if you consider you will be respraying every year if you us cheaper sprays that don't kill the roots.

The bad thing is all forbes and legumes are smoked along with the thistle.

Good luck,
Steve
 
Use Forefront(Milestone+2-4d) It should be a little more economical than straight milestone. If some woody brush is a concern at all use Chapperal.
 
UGUIDE said:
Got a neighbor in SD that has 40 acre adjacent pasture with canada and musk thistle problem. He had it clipped and baled last year but I know they will be back and we are working on most economical treatment. The coop will spray for $5 /acre and we just have to determine best chemical.

Any help would be appreciated.

Seems like milestone runs a little higher than plateau but depends on the rate too.
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Take a look at Grazon if it is pasture.
 
UGUIDE said:
Got a neighbor in SD that has 40 acre adjacent pasture with canada and musk thistle problem. He had it clipped and baled last year but I know they will be back and we are working on most economical treatment. The coop will spray for $5 /acre and we just have to determine best chemical.

Any help would be appreciated.

Seems like milestone runs a little higher than plateau but depends on the rate too.
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Chris you are using spray again? :confused: After all the talk about how people are farming using unsustainable methods you are going to use chemicals? Your friends at "Farm Inc" would be less than impressed.
 
UGUIDE said:
Haymaker, my buddy that used to run cattle but still maintains his pasture recommended that but after reading the labels of grazon, plateau and milestone it looks like milestone is the only one that will control canada, bull and musk thistle. Label just said grazon worked on canada thistle.
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Well I said take a look at Grazon and apparently you did. I know that you can keep grazing with Grazon I don't know about the others.
 
alliesway said:
Milestone has worked great for me here in MI. UofMN did a study and Milestone had a 95% success rate when applied in the blossum stage around the first of July. Of course fall treatment is best when it is storing energy for winter, but I had good luck also with they July application.
There are a few good research articles out there if you do a Google search.

Cost is $20-25 an acre, but this is the most effective herbicide currently for thistles. The cost is not that bad if you consider you will be respraying every year if you us cheaper sprays that don't kill the roots.

The bad thing is all forbes and legumes are smoked along with the thistle.

Good luck,
Steve
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If you do a late fall app with milestone it works and does not kill all the forbes if you do it like this.
Wait for the 1st hard freeze,this puts most forbes into dormancey but thistle being the hardy little bas---- that it is hangs in there storing itself back into its root system--thats when you hit with milestone.

When I did mine 2 yrs ago it got warm again for several weeks and it real did the thistle in--but will have to do it again this fall--its a never ending battle.
 
haymaker said:
Well I said take a look at Grazon and apparently you did. I know that you can keep grazing with Grazon I don't know about the others.
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I am thinking if you and my buddy recommend grazon it probably works on bull & musk thislte too and it is just not labeled for them? I would see grazon being real imporant when spraying pasture with cattle actively feeding on the grass. This particular pasture is not fenced and a guy could wait to hay it until weeks after had been sprayed to be safe.
 
Grazon is Tordon and 2-4D. It is a Restricted use Pesticide and not good for groundwater. Stick with Milestone or Forefront.
 
Wirehairs said:
Grazon is Tordon and 2-4D. It is a Restricted use Pesticide and not good for groundwater. Stick with Milestone or Forefront.
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the 2-4D component in Forefront may also have some influence on grazing or baling restrictions compared to Milestone. The labels will have that information on them.
 
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