Pheasants Forever- SCAM or do they help upland hunters?

Tim Walz is a better pheasant hunter than most of us here on this forum, myself included…I’ll take the comparison to him, with much gratitude…he shoots a .410, and shoots it well. Things are starting to make sense around here…
 
KsHusker said:
Nature Conservancy owns a lot of land - it's not an issue for them.

He claims he's a CPA - I can claim I'm a brain surgeon -

As to my comments on the board - I am genuinely applauding them for having some diversity (A black man) and some women on the board -- the makeup in 2019 -2020 was not the case and was all white and mainly 50-60 yrs old if I recall.

Either way - with the revitalization of this thread - there are a great # of us that do not believe in PF's mission -- some of you do - it's all good.

All I can say is if they would focus on keeping and buying land or anything in general that permanently would open up bird hunting access where there are still wild birds - then I'd be behind them 1000% - - I do not see that as their mission and the mission mostly seems to be lip service.
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Lol “claims he’s a CPA”. You know your argument is solid when you resort to that 😂 I think I’ve made it clear I know my stuff. I’m not going to give you my license #. You made that a point of your reasoning - that the financials show PF is “bad”, so now you’re questioning my credibility since you can’t tell me my findings are wrong.

The nature conservancy has a whole different organizational purpose - it is to buy environmentally sensitive land for conservation and then transfer it to other ownership, but they assume they’ll hold it forever. They buy first and figure out who to partner with later. That’s a very top down, centralized approach. That can get people thinking that the big wigs make the decisions which would be true. PF operates as an organization that concerns itself with the acres impacted, not acres owned. Think about it, CRP and other programs work with active farmers. If they can convince several farmers to put in even 5-10 acres of CRP, that’s a whole lot easier and less expensive than buying a 50 acre parcel. And I think there’s a change in people’s minds from dollars going toward immediate habitat needs to dollars going toward potential acquisitions at a higher level that they won’t have a say in. There’s a lot more financial risk too that the eventual sale to another party will not happen or be delayed with the nature conservancy approach and then the org would be out of luck and members would complain. The member base for PF is the weekend hunter, the hunts when he has time off guy, the common man. The nature conservancy base is high net worth individuals and institutions.

I get that you’re back-handedly applauding the board changes. You just “had” to throw a slight dig at the past board is all I’m saying.
 
benelli-banger said:
he shoots a .410, and shoots it well
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Tim Walz uses his personal
Beretta A400 Xcel semi-automatic 12-gauge shotgun for pheasant hunting.
Key details about the shotgun:
  • Model: Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting.
  • Gauge: 12-gauge.
  • Ammunition: He uses non-toxic bismuth three-inch shells with number five bird shot, which are more environmentally friendly than traditional lead alternatives.
  • Features: Walz mentioned he specifically chose this model, which is designed for shooting sporting clays, because it is heavier than a pure hunting gun and features a hydraulic damper in the stock to reduce recoil, making it more comfortable to shoot as he has gotten older.
 
gim said:
Tim Walz uses his personal
Beretta A400 Xcel semi-automatic 12-gauge shotgun for pheasant hunting.
Key details about the shotgun:
  • Model: Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting.
  • Gauge: 12-gauge.
  • Ammunition: He uses non-toxic bismuth three-inch shells with number five bird shot, which are more environmentally friendly than traditional lead alternatives.
  • Features: Walz mentioned he specifically chose this model, which is designed for shooting sporting clays, because it is heavier than a pure hunting gun and features a hydraulic damper in the stock to reduce recoil, making it more comfortable to shoot as he has gotten older.
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But he could flourish afield with a .410…no doubt about it…
 
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