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Jakeismydog2

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Thanks to Setternut, I am now the proud pappy of a Llewellin Setter. I got him on Wednesday, just in time to head to my inlaws for Turkey day. There have been as many as 6 different dogs here. He is certainly getting some good socialization time over the holiday.

As for the pup, his sire is the Brother of Setternut's dog Ace. He was the last one left in the litter, and the biggest pup in the litter. He is 11 weeks old and 19#. We decided to name him Oxford (he is english and hopefully smart) and if he turns out to be as big as we think he will be, Ox will be a fitting name as well. So far he has been really mellow, I am hoping this continues.

I will accept any and all training input and help I can get. This is my first time training a pointy dog.
 
Gorgeous pup; congrats! Start on obedience training & concentrate on developing his drive to find birds. The only command that I don't teach a pointer is "Sit;" they'll do that on their own & that's fine, but when I'm walking him at heel & stop, I don't want him to drop on his butt. Everything else my pup does & will do when hunting is from the standing position. Get him on live birds often, if possible; I took my current pup to a trainer a couple times before he was 16-weeks-old because I lost my outlet for live pigeons, but it payed dividends. Enjoy your pup; he's a beauty!
 
That is a real good looking pup you got their.

My view of training a new pup.
Keep all lessons short, 15 mins. tops.
Work on very basic commands at first, and make sure those are mastered before moving on.
Do not expect miracles in a couple of lessons.
Big thing is to get a young dog onto live birds and let nature take its course. I like to build up the strong prey drive by allowing the puppy to have fun engaging a bird. I can instill the discipline latter. It is easier to "rein in" an excited puppy but harder to get a well disciplined puppy excited about live birds. In my opinion. By over disciplined puppy I mean a puppy that is more focused on the master than on the birds.
Use lots of praise to train. Once the pup realizes that when he does something "good" he gets high praise, then a stern NO will usually stop anything that needs to be stopped.
Firm but fair.
 
Great pictures!!!

He's perfect !

You'll do everything just fine. He needs to be a puppy; he'll get his work ethic in gear in due time.


Hardly important, but you might get a pheasant wing and save it for "special play." Take it out, toss it, and let him run and grab...and then be especially delighted (and very vocal about it) when he chews, runs, or plays with it. Keep it short---two or three tosses. Put the wing away and and go about life as usual. Won't be long before he gets especially excited about the "special toy."

Don't expect anything of him, just show great joy when he has it. He'll learn its value.


Puppies are wonderful.

Nice.:thumbsup:
 
Good luck with your pointer. Be sure to let the dog mature at his own pace, setters sure seem to take longer than flushers to learn but it sure is fun watching your dog slam into a hard point.
 
There are some people in the area that sell pen raised quail. They are not great fliers but will do fine for a young dog.

Remember, he is a puppy. Everything about birds for now is fun and exposure. If he points great, if he chases that a good thing too.

Take you time, don't talk much if at all when, he is working birds. He will learn much more from the birds than we can teach him.

I used a book, "Training with Mo" which I think is a very simple and effective method.

Keep it fun, and positive, he is a baby.
 
A fine looking pup, congratulations. I share the philosophy that you may be well served by working gradually and letting the dog's natural instincts be your guide.

Also, keep a bottle of resolve carpet cleaner and lots of paper towels handy. ;)
 
11 weeks

This is my Max at 11 weeks. I was taking a picture of him with my camera phone, he saw the phone and locked up on it.

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This is Max at about 16 weeks. Similar situation but locked up on a dummy I was going to throw for him.

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The point is there through genetics. Teach basic obedience until he's older and ready to staunch up. You can't spend "too much" time with him, but keep lessons short.
 
By the way, I like the name, Oxford. Always wish I had thought through the ``Daisy'' decision. Pretty common -- it should have been Stormy, since we got her in a howling snowstorm, but that one was taken by the in-laws.
 
Daisybuck said:
Also, keep a bottle of resolve carpet cleaner and lots of paper towels handy. ;)
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Fortunately I have no carpet! Although he is doing real well on the housebreaking. But I am getting a bit tired taking him out every couple of hours in the night.

Thanks for all the advice. I had a neighbor give me the Wolters Gun Dog Training book. Does anybody have experience with his methods? I have not had a chance to read it yet.
 
That's about as cute as a pup can get. Looks like a real keeper. Congrats!
 
Jakeismydog2 said:
I had a neighbor give me the Wolters Gun Dog Training book. Does anybody have experience with his methods? I have not had a chance to read it yet.
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First off, very sharp looking pup you have there.

To be honest with ya I would deep six the Wolter's book, there are better methods and more updated training programs better suited to pointing breeds. Anything with Delmar Smith's name on it is good material. Same goes for George Hickox. If your looking for video, nothing will match the "Perfect Start" and "Perfect Finish" training series DVD's from Perfection Kennels as far as a complete program from start to finish with lots of detail.
 
birdshooter said:
First off, very sharp looking pup you have there.

To be honest with ya I would deep six the Wolter's book, there are better methods and more updated training programs better suited to pointing breeds. Anything with Delmar Smith's name on it is good material. Same goes for George Hickox. If your looking for video, nothing will match the "Perfect Start" and "Perfect Finish" training series DVD's from Perfection Kennels as far as a complete program from start to finish with lots of detail.
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I agree on not using the Wolter's book. It is marginal, and there is a lot better material out there now.
 
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