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SDJIM

SDJIM

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For a gloomy overcast day it turned out pretty good. Got mail from the NRCS office. The first big step is complete in my quest for more CRP.
The options are for 18.1 or 21.6 acres of Saline Seep--- a continuous CRP practice (#18C I think)--guess I'll go with the 21.6 acres.

This will make the renter happy/me happy and I hope the wildlife will enjoy it too. Hope to have it in place next year.:thumbsup:
 
Congrats Jim. Sounds like a good use of the CCRP. Have never heard of the SS program.

I got 21 acres of CP5a trees going in this spring. That is my last planned CRP project for the farm and then I am DONE!

Also hope to become a life member of PF at PF Fest in Feb.

What do they plant in the SS?
 
What I have is a spot of ground that is salty (alkali--sp?) that with the rent increase we got for next year, the renter wanted some relief from that ground---so I checked with the FSA and indeed they had a program just for that. I'm not sure just what will get planted but it is a developed grass cover that will tolerate the salty ground. It should be a great spot when developed as it will tie in with my CP33(Quail Buffer) and CP5A(Field Wind Break ie a 5 row shelter belt) that is 192 ft away.

I have one more possible place to do a CRP planting (a farmed wetlands) on the place but that is for next year at best, then I'm done.:cheers::D
 
UGUIDE said:
Congrats Jim. Sounds like a good use of the CCRP. Have never heard of the SS program.

I got 21 acres of CP5a trees going in this spring. That is my last planned CRP project for the farm and then I am DONE!

Also hope to become a life member of PF at PF Fest in Feb.

What do they plant in the SS?
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What is the CP5A going to be--mine was 2 rows Red Cedar, one of White Cedar, one of Russian Olive and one of Buffalo Berry. The Buffalo Berry had to be replanted as it failed badly and that failed also, so I got the ok to replant with Choke Cherry--that has done somewhat better--I'd be leary of Buffalo Berry.
 
SDJIM said:
What is the CP5A going to be--mine was 2 rows Red Cedar, one of White Cedar, one of Russian Olive and one of Buffalo Berry. The Buffalo Berry had to be replanted as it failed badly and that failed also, so I got the ok to replant with Choke Cherry--that has done somewhat better--I'd be leary of Buffalo Berry.
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Had to dig out my spec sheet here but looks like these are the spcies going into 7 different belts:

- Juniper
- red cedar
- silver maple
- crabapple
- laurel willow (wet area)
- golden willow
-false indigo
-redosier dogwood
-plum
-russian olive
-honey locust
-black chokeberry
-juneberry/service berry

Should be a pretty diverse mix.
 
Wow that sounds super--I love the diverisity--the birds are gonna love you. So whats the total acerage?:)

FSA and NRCS offers a program that they spray the tree plantings in the early spring--its really effective and I really recomend it.
 
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Very good Jim. You're doing good things for wildlife and your soil.:cheers:
 
SDJIM said:
Wow that sounds super--I love the diverisity--the birds are gonna love you. So whats the total acerage?:)

FSA and NRCS offers a program that they spray the tree plantings in the early spring--its really effective and I really recomend it.
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21 acres of CP5a. And yep, I am all setup to spray princep on my existing trees in the spring. Thanks for the headsup though. Hardest to control weeds in the fabric holes and on edge of fabric but this should help quite a bit.
 
I like this thread! Just make sure to get all your NRCS and CRP/FSA stuff done before the next Farm Bill gets hammered out. Because when that happens, who knows!!!
 
It's a go

Got more mail today from the FSA office and it's the offical paper work to start my new CRP, Establishment of Perm. Salt Tolerant Vegetative Cover CP18C. 21.6 acres under CCRP for ten years to be planted this coming Aug after the current winter wheat is harvested.

This will make 36.6 acres of CRP in this quarter of land. The saline area is 6.7 acres and the rest is to square up the plot. There is a 5 row CP5A tree wind break to the west with a 120 ft wide CP33 Quail Buffer inside of the wind break and then 190 ft of crop land out to the new CRP. The south border of this quarter is another CP 33 planting with a 8 row CRP wind break across the fence on the adjacent quarter(not mine).

This will give me 122 acres of CRP and 47 acres in habitat that is not CRP for a total of 179 acres of Habitat on the farm.

Feels real good :cheers: :thumbsup:
 
SDJIM, good going! You and people like you are why we have pheasants and pheasant hunting.:thumbsup:
 
SDJIM, can you tell us more about what you do with you crop acres on the farm. I'm just starting to get into that and feel the future is doing a better job of balancing crop production with conservation.

What does that look like on your farm?
 
UGUIDE said:
SDJIM, can you tell us more about what you do with you crop acres on the farm. I'm just starting to get into that and feel the future is doing a better job of balancing crop production with conservation.

What does that look like on your farm?
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Gee Chris I wish I was super farmer but I'm just an old retired electronics tech that married the gal with the land and she lets me do what I want on the conservation end of things.

As for the farming we cash rent the land to 2 different farmers and they do the farming. I think they do a good job and they talk to us about things they are doing. The normal crop rotation they use is winter wheat, soybeans,corn and one of them sometimes does sunflowers. They support my efforts on the habitat by doing some planting for me and sometimes spray for the cost of the chemicals if it fits into their sch.

This new CRP planting is because of a request on their part. They also keep an eye on things as we are abseentee land owners and thats worth a lot to us. My wife is very happy with the conservation work I have done and thinks the farm overall has benifited greatly form my efforts(THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING):)
 
SDJIM said:
Gee Chris I wish I was super farmer but I'm just an old retired electronics tech that married the gal with the land and she lets me do what I want on the conservation end of things.

As for the farming we cash rent the land to 2 different farmers and they do the farming. I think they do a good job and they talk to us about things they are doing. The normal crop rotation they use is winter wheat, soybeans,corn and one of them sometimes does sunflowers. They support my efforts on the habitat by doing some planting for me and sometimes spray for the cost of the chemicals if it fits into their sch.

This new CRP planting is because of a request on their part. They also keep an eye on things as we are abseentee land owners and thats worth a lot to us. My wife is very happy with the conservation work I have done and thinks the farm overall has benifited greatly form my efforts(THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING):)
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Sounds like you are in the sweet spot SDJIM. Keep up the good work.
 
I'm happy for you and jealous of you at the same time. Reminds me that as a teenager my first boss told me I could marry more money in 5 minutes than I could earn working in a lifetime.
 
niceshot said:
I'm happy for you and jealous of you at the same time. Reminds me that as a teenager my first boss told me I could marry more money in 5 minutes than I could earn working in a lifetime.
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I wish I had him years ago for a boss! I would have taken that advice in a sec!!:D
 
For you guys doing these shrub/tree plantings, how are you controlling the weeds/grass come summer time? I've got an area thats roughly 300 feet by 40 feet that I'll be planting 750 shrubs in on a 5 foot spacing. Should I put down some fabric first, or? I sprayed the area this fall with RU and got a good kill but I also did this same thing to an area right next to it and everything looked good till about June or so, then the weeds got so thick that they crowded/smothered out a good majority of the plantings. And I planted them in a random pattern so I couldn't mow around them, which is what my PLC (Private Lands Conservationist with MDC) wrote up in my contract. Right now in this area it has lots of stemmy stubble left over from brushhogging it which would make it nearly impossible to use fabric I would think.
 
jaytee said:
For you guys doing these shrub/tree plantings, how are you controlling the weeds/grass come summer time? I've got an area thats roughly 300 feet by 40 feet that I'll be planting 750 shrubs in on a 5 foot spacing. Should I put down some fabric first, or? I sprayed the area this fall with RU and got a good kill but I also did this same thing to an area right next to it and everything looked good till about June or so, then the weeds got so thick that they crowded/smothered out a good majority of the plantings. And I planted them in a random pattern so I couldn't mow around them, which is what my PLC (Private Lands Conservationist with MDC) wrote up in my contract. Right now in this area it has lots of stemmy stubble left over from brushhogging it which would make it nearly impossible to use fabric I would think.
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If you use fabric down the lines, from what I have seen in side by side comparisons, is that the fabric'd tree lines will outgrow the non at least 2-1..

More expense initially, less hassle and work down the road.
 
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